RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,766
Posts: 5,433,975
Members: 24,840
Currently online: 658
Newest member: Reece101

TrekToday headlines

The Art of John Alvin Book Review
By: T'Bonz on Sep 23

Episode Four of The Red Shirt Diaries
By: T'Bonz on Sep 22

Star Trek: The Compendium Review
By: T'Bonz on Sep 22

Orci Drops Rangers Project
By: T'Bonz on Sep 22

Retro Review: Image in the Sand
By: Michelle on Sep 20

Star Trek: Shadows Of Tyranny Casting Call
By: T'Bonz on Sep 19

USS Vengeance And More Starship Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Sep 19

Trek 3 To Being Shooting Next Year
By: T'Bonz on Sep 19

Trek Messenger Bag
By: T'Bonz on Sep 18

Star Trek Live In Concert In Australia
By: T'Bonz on Sep 18


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek Movies > Star Trek Movies I-X

Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 22 2014, 09:10 PM   #1
Rookie Trekkie
Ensign
 
Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

Hey everyone! I've been really getting into the Star Trek films (as well as the TV series), and I've been writing reviews for my blog as I go. I've just completed work on my Star Trek III review, found here:

http://stoopidsmartreviews.blogspot....for-spock.html

I'd appreciate any feedback, since you guys are the experts and I'm just a rookie!

You can check out my Star Trek I and II reviews here...

http://stoopidsmartreviews.blogspot....n-picture.html

http://stoopidsmartreviews.blogspot....h-of-khan.html

...as well as my thoughts on the original series here:

http://stoopidsmartreviews.blogspot....1966-1969.html

I had a lot of fun watching and writing, and I hope you have fun reading!
Rookie Trekkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 23 2014, 12:29 AM   #2
Maurice
Vice Admiral
 
Maurice's Avatar
 
Location: Maurice in San Francisco
Re: Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

Again, nice and succinct.

Two points...
Leonard Nimoy... initially only did Wrath of Khan because his character would die at the end.
This was never a condition of his involvement. Harve Bennett pitched him the death scene because he thought it would catch his attention. It did.

...not only did he want to come back as the character, he was willing to direct the next film.
"Willing" isn't the right word. They didn't offer it to him. He saw an opportunity and pitched it himself.
__________________
* * *
"If you wanted to get a good meeting... just go in and
say 'darker, grittier, sexier' and whatever."
—Glen Larson, 2010
Maurice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 25 2014, 12:26 AM   #3
sonak
Vice Admiral
 
Location: in a figment of a mediocre mind's imagination
Re: Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

I agree that one major problem hanging over the film is that it's so obviously a follow-up that is almost solely designed to undo the death of Spock at the end of TWOK. It never feels like its own movie in that way.

I'm surprised to read that you thought its tone was "silly," as the destruction of the ENT and death of David Marcus make its tone very somber to me, probably among the most somber of the films. I'm also surprised that you think Lloyd's Kruge was "restrained."

Overall an interesting read, but a bit too much spent on recapping a movie that whoever's reading it will be familiar with.
__________________
"why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?"
sonak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 25 2014, 01:23 AM   #4
Melakon
Vice Admiral
 
Melakon's Avatar
 
Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos
Re: Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

The only time I've seen a restrained performance by Christopher Lloyd was his first film, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

I originally thought he and Danny DeVito were some of the actual inmates used as extras.
__________________
Curly: If at first you don't succeed, keep on suckin' til you do succeed.
--Movie Maniacs (1936)
Melakon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 30 2014, 08:03 PM   #5
Rookie Trekkie
Ensign
 
Re: Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

sonak wrote: View Post

I'm surprised to read that you thought its tone was "silly," as the destruction of the ENT and death of David Marcus make its tone very somber to me, probably among the most somber of the films.
Shatner's acting was pretty great in that scene!

I agree that parts of the film are very serious, and very well done. I think I meant to say that the whole idea of Spock being reborn and his katra being put back into him is sort of silly. It just bugs me because this is essentially a clone of Spock and the real Spock is dead. You can't take it too seriously or you could lose your mind.
Rookie Trekkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 30 2014, 08:11 PM   #6
VST
Lieutenant Commander
 
Location: Earth Spacedock
Re: Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

It's a bit erratic, TSFS, tonally at least. It wants to be all things to all folk & only gets it half right, struggling to balance tragedy, sadness, broad comedy & derring do in the one package.

I will say though, Shatner was never better than his reaction to David's death. He just nailed the shock & horror of that moment. Every time I get a lump in my throat.
VST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5 2014, 05:49 PM   #7
CoveTom
Rear Admiral
 
Location: CoveTom
Re: Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

As individual movies, I like pretty much all six of the classic Trek flicks. TSFS has some great moments, and as has been mentioned, Shatner's acting is at its finest, both in his reaction to David's death and his reaction to the destruction of the Enterprise.

But I hate the overall continuity of the series, and particularly TSFS and TVH.

Why? Because they undid pretty much everything dramatic or game changing that their predecessors did. Spock dies, but wait, he comes back to life. The Enterprise is sacrificed but, oh wait, we've got a spare. Kirk has to cope with being middle aged, an admiral, and a father. But, oh wait, now his son is gone and he's the captain again.

Top that off with the fact that by the time we get to TFF, all our characters have stagnated back into what they were during TOS. Kirk is the captain again, Spock is his first officer, Chekov is back at the navigator's station, Sulu is at the helm. All the new characters that had been created which allowed our regulars to grows and progress -- Decker, Ilia, Saavik, etc. -- are gone and we've got the status quo back.

For that reason, the TOS film series feels very small. It doesn't go anywhere with the characters. It ultimately reverts to just being episodic television. And that's unfortunate.
CoveTom is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 5 2014, 07:34 PM   #8
Marsden
Captain
 
Marsden's Avatar
 
Location: Getting killed so the captain can have tea later.
Re: Stoopid Smart Reviews "The Search for Spock"

Rookie Trekkie wrote: View Post
It just bugs me because this is essentially a clone of Spock and the real Spock is dead. You can't take it too seriously or you could lose your mind.
You know they are all dead. They were disintigrated the first time they were transported and that is just making a reconsitiuted copy of them every time.
__________________
"A man either lives life as it happens to him, meets it head-on, and licks it. Or he turns his back on it and starts to wither away."
Marsden is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:53 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.