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Old July 20 2014, 02:11 AM   #1
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The Perfect Mate (would you choose this?)

I really enjoyed this episode, I watched it for the first time today. It got me to thinking. If you had an opportunity to have a woman groomed especially for you, who would morph into your perfect mate, would you take it? Esp. one as beautiful as Famke Jansen? On the surface it seems like the obvious answer is yes. However, remember in Coming To America, these mates were brought to the prince (eddie murphy), and when he asked her what she liked, she answered whatever you like my prince. I would think having this kind of response every day in and day out would get mundane, I like women with spirit, individuality, and their own mind. Difficult at times, but never boring. I want to hear from women as well as men on this. If you could have your own metamorph empath would you take it? I am not sure myself. Part of me says no. On the other hand if having her own mind would be programmed as part of her imprinting... So, what do YOU think? I look forward to reading your replies.
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Old July 20 2014, 02:12 AM   #2
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Re: The Perfect Mate (would you choose this?)

There is, IMHO, no such thing as a "perfect" mate.
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Old July 20 2014, 08:33 AM   #3
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It wasn't like Famke's character just obeyed her mate like Eddie's brides in Coming to America, she became the perfect mate (IIRC). If the person she bonded with wanted an independent woman, she'd be independent. If the person she bonded with wanted a submissive woman, she'd be submissive.
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Old July 20 2014, 10:11 AM   #4
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Re: The Perfect Mate (would you choose this?)

As bbjeg says she became the perfect made for the person she bonded with. Of course as MLB points out there is no such thing as the perfect mate.

But don't we all look for certain qualities in a potential partner? And those qualities can be different from one person to another.
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Old July 20 2014, 12:29 PM   #5
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You've missed the empathic nature of this phenomenon, imho. Kamala isn't going to just acquiesce to her mate on everything. She empathically gleans what her mate desires or requires, and is bred to want to be it or do it. Once she had fully bonded, she'd just be the "right" mate for you, & you'd never know otherewise

As to whether I'd ever want something like that, it's kind of hard to suspend that much disbelief in reality. It's easier to believed in light speed travel, frankly, even when all accounts point to it being impossible
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Old July 20 2014, 12:43 PM   #6
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If you had an opportunity to have a woman groomed especially for you, who would morph into your perfect mate, would you take it?
No. I had an unsuccessful marriage in the 70s, and pretty much gave up on attempting relationships after that. If the mate is perfectly suited for you, where is the joy in discovering things about each other, if that person is completely focused on being right for you?

Though it would be a tough decision if it's Famke.
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Old July 20 2014, 05:39 PM   #7
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The funny thing is, you don't really need the imprinting alien. We've got the holodeck remember? You can test out living with a new spouse every day. And with that mobile thing the doctor had from Voyager, no one would know it's a hologram. Plus if you're thinking about dating a real person, you can have the computer whip up a hologram based on their records, and test-run the dating process with only like 10% margin of error. Just don't let them walk in on you, otherwise they might be OUTRAGED! by this.

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Old July 20 2014, 06:38 PM   #8
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^Great, now your girlfriend is Moriarty.
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Old July 20 2014, 11:26 PM   #9
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I like being in The Driver's Seat, let there be no mistaking that. But in the beginning of any relationship, it's always so great, isn't it? She's just fun to be around with no sign of mental instability in sight. This is my FAVOURITE phase and I would not give that up for having a woman who was Made-to-Order. After that, of course, that's when the trouble starts ...
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Old July 22 2014, 10:47 PM   #10
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From my understanding she became the perfect mate. Not that she rolled over to do everything you wanted to do.

So if you like someone ambitious, challenging, adventurous, she would be that. If you like someone to cook you dinner, and grab you a beer out of the fridge while you watch tv, she will be that. It doesn't mean there aren't things to discover, it means they are the ideal mate for what you look for.

She will be completely different depending on who she's mated to. So I think some of the posters here are not understanding the concept. Unless I'm mistaken.
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Old July 22 2014, 11:10 PM   #11
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The thing is, if you wanted the imprinted woman to have her own mind, she would have her own mind to make you happy.

Hedonistically I would totally go for it, but my annoying superego would keep reminding me it was a form of slavery.
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Old July 23 2014, 12:21 AM   #12
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2takesfrakes wrote: View Post
I like being in The Driver's Seat, let there be no mistaking that. But in the beginning of any relationship, it's always so great, isn't it? She's just fun to be around with no sign of mental instability in sight. This is my FAVOURITE phase and I would not give that up for having a woman who was Made-to-Order. After that, of course, that's when the trouble starts ...

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Old July 23 2014, 08:06 AM   #13
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No. My "perfect" partner and I would be equals. While someone like Kamala would pick up on that and act more "independent", she would only be doing it to please me. She'd still essentially be my property. And Kamala isn't even choosing this life; it's simply the only one she's ever been allowed to experience.
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Old July 23 2014, 09:21 AM   #14
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I couldn't do it, because I would be aware of the fact that my wishes and desires had been permanently impressed upon a living, sentient being, overriding his or her own sense of self, and that would disturb me greatly.
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Old July 23 2014, 10:38 AM   #15
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No. My "perfect" partner and I would be equals. While someone like Kamala would pick up on that and act more "independent", she would only be doing it to please me.
That's a good point I think. A partner "designed" to be the way you prefer your partner to be would feel artificial on some level (unless maybe you were completely oblivious of the imprint process), as would the relationship as a whole.

Any display of affection, trust or even jealousy would feel unearned and cheap. The relationship would not require constant work or care or self-improvement of any kind - it would not be an adult relationship at all.
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