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Old July 18 2014, 06:11 PM   #1
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"cause and effect"

just finished watching on BBC america the episode "cause and effect". Is their any books on what happened to ship and crew? thought if their is I might pick up a copy
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Old July 18 2014, 06:22 PM   #2
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just finished watching on BBC america the episode "cause and effect". Is their any books on what happened to ship and crew? thought if their is I might pick up a copy
Do you mean the USS Bozeman (the ship that hit the Enterprise)?

Both the ship and her captain were featured again in some novels, most prominently the TNG novel Ship of the Line. You can find all their respective appearances in the articles below:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/US...%28NCC-1941%29
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Bozeman

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Morgan_Bateson
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Morgan_Bateson
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Old July 19 2014, 03:44 AM   #3
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I can remember the first time I showed my girlfriend that episode. Finished the first act, pressed pause, and I said, "That was really good, I'm going to rewind it and watch it again." Then I hit play and my girlfriend though I'd gone back to the beginning.
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Old July 19 2014, 10:45 AM   #4
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Finished the first act, pressed pause, and I said, "That was really good, I'm going to rewind it and watch it again."
I've been there with many a TNG episode. I know the feeling ...

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Old July 19 2014, 02:31 PM   #5
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The only time in TV history that a show intentionally made the entire viewership believe that the network had botched the playback, & had started from the previous commercial break. I was almost ready to call up the local affiliate to complain, until I realized that the camera angles were different. That's when I remembered that the teaser had the ship blow up, which I'd completely forgotten by then, & I started putting it together

There's a lot to be said about how TNG became very fomulaic after seasons 3 & 4, but watching that episode when it 1st aired was such an incredible mind game. TNG at it's format bending best
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Old July 19 2014, 02:58 PM   #6
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The Bozeman was mentioned in the comm chatter at the start of FC. Of course that doesn't mean it's the same one.
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Old July 23 2014, 12:13 AM   #7
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It seems to me that the old girl would have had to have been retired, or at least distinguished in some fashion, since otherwise there would be confusion with the contemporary Bozeman. (The name would surely have been reused at some point, given the significance of the name in the history of warp flight.)
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Old July 23 2014, 03:20 PM   #8
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I still have a problem with how just opening up the main shuttlebay doors and venting the air would produce enough thrust to move a ship th e mass of a Galaxy class and measurable amount (let alone what happened to the crew working in that bay). The main shuttlebay was immense, but the mass of around 4,500,000 metric tons being shoved quickly by just air seems strange...
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Old July 23 2014, 04:01 PM   #9
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Re: "cause and effect"

I'm always glad to hear that I wasn't the only one to WTF when I turned on the episode and the ship promptly exploded.
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Old July 23 2014, 05:41 PM   #10
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I still have a problem with how just opening up the main shuttlebay doors and venting the air would produce enough thrust to move a ship th e mass of a Galaxy class and measurable amount (let alone what happened to the crew working in that bay). The main shuttlebay was immense, but the mass of around 4,500,000 metric tons being shoved quickly by just air seems strange...


Some one actually did the math, somewhere online, and it's barely noticable. Certainly nothing to get out of the way of anything faster than a tortise.
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Old July 23 2014, 05:53 PM   #11
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Not one of my favorite episodes.

Tried to post this four times in a row to no success.
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Old July 23 2014, 06:41 PM   #12
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Not one of my favorite episodes.

Tried to post this four times in a row to no success.
The fifth time he avoided colliding with csifiles.com.
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Old July 23 2014, 07:48 PM   #13
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Re: "cause and effect"

I would have recommended depressurizing the main forums...
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Old July 23 2014, 08:09 PM   #14
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Venting HOT gas ...



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Old July 24 2014, 06:19 PM   #15
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I used to love this episode, then I listened to MacFarlane's fratboy and Braga's mopey commentary.
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