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Old July 27 2014, 11:24 PM   #31
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Re: Star Trek VI: The Remade ''Package''?

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I'm pretty sure I went into a bit of detail on a past thread or two a couple years back. I have still never read the Meyer book, outside of skimming it in a store when it first came out; I saw stuff that was 100% out from what I knew about TUC, about the klingon blood, and was flabbergasted he was passing that off as fact until I noticed the thing about it being a memoir and being subject to failngs of memory, which sounds like a get out of jail free card.

I'll see if I can find the earlier posts I made.
From Meyer's memoir, years after the fact.
"There was a debate over the color of blood, which I wanted to be different than human blood. I wound up choosing a pink shade that seemed suitably weird, only to regret my choice down the road when I realized it reminded me of Pepto Bismol."

--Nicholas Meyer, The View From the Bridge, p.217
Wow, seems I must be full of shit on this one. I thought this was where he started reciting the dumb legend of blood being ratings related. I wonder where that was Berman-parotting was, as I don't see why I would have made it up. mea culpa
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Old July 30 2014, 01:52 PM   #32
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Re: Star Trek VI: The Remade ''Package''?

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STAR TREK V sucked! Why would Jerry Goldsmith want to score another dud? I'm certain that Jerry Goldsmith's being unavailable had nothing to do with "price." It had to do with having pride and being concerned about the bankability of his name.
Goldsmith is my favorite composer by far, but even I am aware his filmography is chock full of shitty movies. Star Trek V was hardly the first or last dud (or even worst) the man scored. He apparently took whatever films could pay his price (even Canon films hired him - so how expensive was he?) and scored a HUGE number of craptacular films in his lifetime. I consider him a finer composer than John Williams, but he did not have the fortune of being attached to directors like Speilberg and Lucas, or having Williams' incredible knack for creating memorable, crowd pleasing, hummable themes like Superman, Indiana Jones and so on. While routinely composing beautiful music, the films themselves were often not worthy of his talents.

A list of shitty films he scored would be tedious, but go look up his credits. Lots of crappy films wound up with amazing scores.
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Old August 3 2014, 09:08 PM   #33
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O/T but isn't Meyer working on a series or movie dealing with the Soviet Space Program?
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Old August 4 2014, 12:40 AM   #34
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Hadn't heard that, but will have to study up. Can imagine him doing it in a BARBARIANS AT THE GATE kind of way (which is more & more how the best dramatized histories are handled IMO, with an eye toward truth via humor.)
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Old August 4 2014, 12:48 AM   #35
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A composer's stature - and hence cost - can go up and down. And when it's down, he won't boast about it. So it's entirely possible that Meyer THOUGHT he couldn't afford Goldsmith in 1991, even if Goldsmith was actually desperate for work and would have cut his price after a bit of talk.
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Old August 4 2014, 11:15 AM   #36
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Goldsmith is my favorite composer by far, but ... Star Trek V was hardly the first or last dud (or even worst) the man scored.
I was truly unaware of these factoids and that is interesting. Especially when the really big hits that he did score were so impressive, for their time. Speaking of the STAR TREK V soundtrack, however, I did not care for how Goldsmith just cobbled TMP's soundtrack with standard Hollywood music. The result was uneven - and disappointing, at best ...
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