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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old July 15 2014, 03:04 AM   #16
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Re: What do You Think of Q?

Q is an antagonist. Not a villain.
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Old July 15 2014, 06:23 AM   #17
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Re: What do You Think of Q?

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They wrote him a bit too hammy in a lot of episodes. But I rather enjoyed the whole humanity on trial storyline in the pilot and series finale. I thought perhaps that story line continued would have made a more appropriate 1st movie than Generations. The metaphysics in that would have made for a more compelling movie for me.
Dude holy shit yes!!

At the end of AGT, we basically get Q saying "yeah that was just a taste of what's to come!"

Perfect for a Q induced adventure with Kirk, Picard, and both crews. Something to really test humanity, not with the silly games, but a real test!
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Old July 15 2014, 05:21 PM   #18
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Re: What do You Think of Q?

Q is an enigma because for the most part he seems to act like Loki, basically an amoral trickster who is just doing stuff for his own amusement. But at times he gets on a soap-box and berates humanity for not living up to some moral ideal (starting with Farpoint). A moral ideal that he himself doesn't seem to meet. So it's really hard to pin down what he stands for. But this ambiguity is the key to the character. He's supposed to frustrate all attempts to categorize him as "good guy" or "bad guy".
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Old July 16 2014, 12:28 AM   #19
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Q is Bart Simpson if he was omnipotent.
Without Homer or Marge around to disciplin him!
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Old July 16 2014, 03:45 AM   #20
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I've always looked forward to 'Q' episodes. All are fun to watch with the exception of Encounter at Farpoint and True Q and my favourite line:

Picard walks over and shakes Q's extended hand. Then Q says:
"Welcome to the afterlife, Jean-Luc. You're dead and I'm God !"
Picard then forcibly withdraws his hand.
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Old July 18 2014, 01:32 PM   #21
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The poster who said Q is like the Doctor is right on the money. The Q Continuum remind of Star Trek's version of the Time Lords. Watching and judging over humanity. Are they heroes? Are they villains? Neither, really. They're neutral
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Old July 18 2014, 05:52 PM   #22
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Q episodes, at least in TNG, were always a treat.

In his other appearances, not so much....
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Old July 18 2014, 07:46 PM   #23
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John De Lancie is great. Q is a pain, a godly pain. Yes, he's taught humanity quite a bit but he put humanity on trial (not sure what his guilty verdict would have led to), cost lives in 'Q Who' (he could have sent the ship back the same way it got there before lives were lost), and he self appointed him himself Judge because he could but that never sat right with me and you'd think he would have gotten being a godly douche out of his system by TNG's time.

Now don't get me wrong, when John De Lancie is in an episode, I know awesomeness is about to happen, but Q is a dick and a lesson to Starfleet and every species in the universe that dicks exist.
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Old July 23 2014, 09:22 PM   #24
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John De Lancie is great. Q is a pain, a godly pain. Yes, he's taught humanity quite a bit but he put humanity on trial (not sure what his guilty verdict would have led to), cost lives in 'Q Who' (he could have sent the ship back the same way it got there before lives were lost), and he self appointed him himself Judge because he could but that never sat right with me and you'd think he would have gotten being a godly douche out of his system by TNG's time.

Now don't get me wrong, when John De Lancie is in an episode, I know awesomeness is about to happen, but Q is a dick and a lesson to Starfleet and every species in the universe that dicks exist.
Nicely said and sums up my feelings. Love John as an actor but Q.....eh
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Old July 27 2014, 09:02 AM   #25
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I believe that, under all that malevolence - and Q was malevolent - there was something about Humanity and Human Beings that interested and attracted him
Cruel, yes. Malevolent, no. The kind of cruelty that is easy to pick up (I suppose) if you've been (almost) omnipotent for aeons.

I'd consider Q more of an 'amoral trickster' as someone else put it, and even then he might only appear amoral in our eyes . Most of the time Q does anything, it ultimately seems to have a good effect on the main characters or the Federation as a whole, even when the acts seem "evil" at the time itself (Q who, tapestry). Of course, we're led to believe that this is because 'our heroes' made the best of it, but I always got the feeling that this was the intention of Q all along. Picard with his 'holier than thou' attitude, for example, really could use the kick in the rear he got from Q every now and then. Of course, that doesn't explain all his evil acts away, such as 'tormenting the Calamarain', but still.


Well, that is considering the TNG Q at least. When VOY Q came along, I really got the feeling we were dealing with a supposedly omnipotent entity who didn't actually have the slightest clue as to what he was doing. In that respect, VOY spoiled Q for me, even though he was still fun to watch in those eps.
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Old July 27 2014, 01:58 PM   #26
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I think the big problem with Picard is that he's humorless, pompous and self-important, not to mention self-righteous. His character really needs someone like Q to take him down a peg. Q is actually good for Picard as demonstrated in Tapestry for example.
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Old August 3 2014, 05:40 PM   #27
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They wrote him a bit too hammy in a lot of episodes. But I rather enjoyed the whole humanity on trial storyline in the pilot and series finale. I thought perhaps that story line continued would have made a more appropriate 1st movie than Generations. The metaphysics in that would have made for a more compelling movie for me.
Dude holy shit yes!!

At the end of AGT, we basically get Q saying "yeah that was just a taste of what's to come!"

Perfect for a Q induced adventure with Kirk, Picard, and both crews. Something to really test humanity, not with the silly games, but a real test!
Generations would have been too soon but I fully expected Q to show up in a movie.
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Old August 3 2014, 09:00 PM   #28
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Oh, I wish I had that power for about five minutes.

Cause all pollution to diappear, no fossil fuel left on the planet, every fossil dug up and placed on display--instant zoos filled with every possible animal, and Mars and Venus made habitable. All missiles disappear. All diseases cured, etc.
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Old August 3 2014, 09:20 PM   #29
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Oh, I wish I had that power for about five minutes.

Cause all pollution to diappear, no fossil fuel left on the planet, every fossil dug up and placed on display--instant zoos filled with every possible animal, and Mars and Venus made habitable. All missiles disappear. All diseases cured, etc.
It's likely that no one has that power. That's why life took three billion years to evolve man and not one sec...
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Old August 4 2014, 12:54 AM   #30
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Q is great, and perfect in All Good Things and most of his TNG appearances. When they start adding more detail to Q, then I don't quite like it as much. I'm not really a fan of the whole "Q tries to give someone powers, and they reject it" thing that happens from time to time.

And as for Voyager I'm not really a fan of the whole "lets represent the continuum as some period piece." Makes it feel like some kind of holodeck thing.
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