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Old July 3 2014, 11:41 PM   #1
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The two-season solution

After how well my one-season solution thread went (http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=247459), I decided to create a sequel thread. This time, it's about shows benefitting from two seasons long instead of one. Do you know of any shows (current or past) that would be better off that way?
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Old July 4 2014, 12:06 AM   #2
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Sopranos would have had the hardest punch if it ended after season 2 and wasn't allowed to dwindle into cyclical plotlines.

2 seasons is less of a 'sweet spot' than 1, because usually if you have an epic enough story that you can't tell it in one season, you have no reason to stop at two.

And furthermore if you have good enough ratings to do a second season they probably won't go down far enough in that one season not to do a third.
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Old July 4 2014, 12:31 AM   #3
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John Doe, went for one season, could have been really big if it had a second and final season.
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Old July 4 2014, 05:01 AM   #4
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Homeland would have been good with one or two seasons.

End season one the obvious way to end the show, or 2nd one that pretty much goes the way it did without the plot falling apart at the end.
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Old July 4 2014, 09:49 PM   #5
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Re: The two-season solution

When I read about how the producers of Rome intended to incorporate the birth of Jesus into future seasons (because an illiterate Jewish preacher in Judea affected the elites of early first-century Rome... how?), I find myself kinda relieved it ended after the two seasons it did.
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Old July 5 2014, 03:10 AM   #6
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Umm, yeah. Even if you're planning to write Jesus strictly as a historical figure and not in a Ben Hur sort of way, he wasn't historically relevant until he was 29. So unless they were planning to jump forward 30 years Jesus wasn't exactly relevant to their story.
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Old July 5 2014, 01:55 PM   #7
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Herod The Great appeared in season 2 (in Timon's storyline) and plays a role in the nativity story.


As far as a continuation of Rome, there's the BBC series I, Claudius which deals with (dramatized of course) events about ten years later (and onward). However it's much older, and on a shoestring BBC budget. Lot of great actors though-including Patrick Stewart.

I remember there was talk of a remake/readaptation, but that did not materialize.
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Old July 5 2014, 08:49 PM   #8
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Re: The two-season solution

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Herod The Great appeared in season 2 (in Timon's storyline) and plays a role in the nativity story.
Yes, and Ulysses S. Grant, who appears in the Steven Spielberg film Lincoln, plays a role in the Wild Wild West film story.

But I don't want to see either of those plots in Rome.
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Old July 6 2014, 04:13 AM   #9
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Is that based on the novel I, Claudius? I was forced to read that in high school, it'd be interesting to see a TV series.

The Office (US) is another show that could have benefitted from an earlier cancellation. Not that the later seasons didn't have good episodes and a lot of good new characters, they just kept stretching to figure out where the hell to go with their character arcs. Get Jim and Pam together, good, done. No need to make up a new good guy/bad guy love triangle every season and come up with more new ways to have Michael act needy.

Also, if Community were cancelled after two seasons we'd have more to complain about, like with Firefly. Complaining about Community's cancellation would have been fun, now we have nothing to complain about.
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Old July 6 2014, 05:20 PM   #10
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I'm not sure if two seasons would have been appropriate for The Office. Three or Four, certainly, but the first season was so weak that I think it needed more than two.
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Old July 6 2014, 05:45 PM   #11
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I'm not sure if two seasons would have been appropriate for The Office. Three or Four, certainly, but the first season was so weak that I think it needed more than two.
I meant two full seasons, season one was more a quarter-season. One of those 'We don't think people will watch this so we're ordering a very small amount of episodes just in case they do' seasons. It's not even sold separately in the DVD set. So, you're right, The Office should have ended after 2 1/4 seasons.

Speaking of shows with 1/4 first seasons, I think Family Guy was cancelled at the exact right time. Now if only they hadn't brought it back.
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Old July 9 2014, 11:25 AM   #12
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Re: The two-season solution

Here's a list of some two-season examples I've come up with.

  1. The West Wing
  2. The Tudors
  3. Entourage
  4. The Sopranos
  5. Dexter
  6. Alias
  7. Millennium
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Old July 9 2014, 10:05 PM   #13
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Re: The two-season solution

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Here's a list of some two-season examples I've come up with.

  1. The West Wing
I have to disagree with this. The West Wing didn't really lose steam until Season 5, and Seasons 3 and 4 had some very excellent episodes.
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Old July 9 2014, 10:45 PM   #14
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Here's a list of some two-season examples I've come up with.

  1. The West Wing
I have to disagree with this. The West Wing didn't really lose steam until Season 5, and Seasons 3 and 4 had some very excellent episodes.
That's true but the end of Season 2 would have the show go out on a high note with what happens next left up to our imagination. It's the best way to end a series.
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Old July 9 2014, 11:10 PM   #15
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Re: The two-season solution

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Here's a list of some two-season examples I've come up with.

  1. The West Wing
My dear sir,

It is with great sorrow and reluctance that I must deliver the news that you have lost this particular thread. Had you argued for shorter seasons, this outcome might have been averted... But to say that (assuming the one season = one in-story year rule more or less holds) the show shouldn't even have done a re-election arc? This simply does not compute. You have lost the thread, sir, all of it, and you have no one to blame for it but yourself.
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