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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old July 1 2014, 06:11 AM   #16
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I'll take the Enterprise-E over the D anyday!
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Old July 1 2014, 06:43 AM   #17
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I am one of those who wished they had just kept the Galaxy class for the movies.

For me, the Enterprise-E was a ship that some angles (IE view from top), it looked good. While I was a fan of Enterprise-D, on some angles, E-E was a refreshing return to an almost Constitution class look. But from the bottom, I just did not like it's look, nor did I like the side view.

Bottom line: I don't hate the Enterprise D, and thing it looks alright, but far from my favorite incarnation of the Enterprise.

Mine would be
1. Enterprise 1701 refit/1701-A
2. Enterprise 1701 TOS
3. Enterprise D
4. NX-01
5. Enterprise E
6. Enterprise B
7. Enterprise 1701, alternate
8. Enterprise C
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Old July 1 2014, 06:53 AM   #18
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

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I actually like the "D" because it looked unique while still looking like a Star Trek ship.
This is the crux of my preference for the D.

People complain about it being front heavy externally, or being overlit/beige/like a cruise ship internally, but to me that's what gave it some of its character, some life beyond the stodgy utilitarism of simply being a ship-of-the-line. Things like the wooden rail on the bridge, homely things.

The 1701-E, it didn't have any of that. Nor did it replace it with anything else. It just felt... sterile. Functional, but without character.

The more hard-edged angle taken by the Enterprise E's design is such a complete 180 from the 1701-D's design philosophy, that I honestly couldn't help feeling that something iconic about The Next Generation was actually missing in those last three movies. The actors were all there, but the spirit was lacking. The presence of 1701-E (or more particularly some of the decisions made on the drawing board during the design of the ship) was a big factor in that. 1701-D had an unique ambiance all its own which was as much a part of the TV show's success as anything else, and which the 1701-E lacked. IMO.

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Old July 1 2014, 07:58 AM   #19
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I loved the E in "First Contact." It was new and different, and it looked so badass going up against that Borg cube.

But in INS and NEM, it just seemed...off. It had no character, and it was just too damn big. The bridge is overwhelmingly large, and the way it was filmed never really gave a good sense of its design. It just felt like a giant room with too many damn work stations.
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Old July 1 2014, 08:13 AM   #20
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Old July 1 2014, 08:47 AM   #21
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

LMFAOschwarz wrote: View Post
Well, as long as the topic has established itself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItbjtWa_DNM

What, were they all stoned, or what? Weird times...
It's scary I'm (we're!) old enough to remember this.
I think they taped a week's worth of shows in a single night, with a dinner break. During those dinner breaks, booze flowed freely. By the time they'd tape the Thursday & Friday shows, they were all tipsy.
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Old July 1 2014, 08:53 AM   #22
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I think both designs had their faults, but overall I'd give the nod to the E outside, it just looked sleeker and more badass for me, but the bridge and the interior looked awful and had no character, whereas the reverse is true of the D.
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Old July 1 2014, 08:58 AM   #23
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

The E had no cohesion to its design. It felt like what it was: a mashup.
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Old July 1 2014, 09:26 AM   #24
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I think the Ent-E looked good from maybe one or two angles, such as the top-aft-side, like here. From almost every other angle it looked horrid.
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Old July 1 2014, 09:48 AM   #25
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The E had no cohesion to its design. It felt like what it was: a mashup.
That's a great pic though. The only angle I don't like is from underneath where it looks like it's got no 'neck' but I'd still rank it as my second favourite behind the Refit/1701-A
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Old July 1 2014, 10:14 AM   #26
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

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I'll take the Enterprise-E over the D anyday!
Same here. The D was repulsive - squat, forward heavy, squashed like it had run into a wall. Just plain ugly - a pig of a ship.

The E is elegant, refined and much better proportioned.
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Old July 1 2014, 11:52 AM   #27
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

I'm in total agreement with those who find the ENTERPRISE-E to be an "ugly" design and rendering. It's entirely too "busy" looking and gives the impression of having been stretched out, which can be very distracting, from certain angles. No. For me, the equation that works is the ENTERPRISE-D. Truly a very beautiful representation of 24th Century technology and design aesthetic. When the "D" met its untimely end in GENERATIONS ... I died inside!
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Old July 1 2014, 01:35 PM   #28
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

It was superficially cool-looking but had no character. It was only featured in three films, and two of them stank, so it never had a chance to grow on me.

And I still want to see Fannie Flagg's answer.
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Old July 1 2014, 01:37 PM   #29
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Re: The Enterprise-E is so ugly

This is the ship I imagine as the Enterprise-E whenever I read the TNG novels now (which is rare).

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Old July 1 2014, 01:39 PM   #30
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I think that looks excellent
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