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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old July 1 2014, 05:21 PM   #16
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How come Troi is wearing a dress to get married
That's a very good question, they should be naked!

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Old July 1 2014, 05:26 PM   #17
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Two words: Bad directing. Stuart Baird's talents obviously lies in the editing room...NOT the director's chair.
Absolutely. He clearly didn't have a touch for character based storytelling, certainly I recall him complaining bitterly about having to absorb the baggage of such already well-established characters, when all he really wanted was a clean slate. Nobody could have been a worse match for a feature based on The Next Generation, lest alone their final screen outing. Perhaps most telling was his complete removal of the ward room scene between Picard and Data, one of THE most crucial scenes in the telling of what these characters are going through in this story. Its like Baird went through the movie with a razor going "Ok guys, we're making an action movie here aren't we, rip the heart of it and do everything you can to de-emphasize character in favour of shooty bits and base emotion, got that? Get to work."
Seriously. It's a shame that this happened. Jonathan Frakes should have directed the movie. He really understands Star Trek and it would have just been perfect for him to film the last hurrah of the series. All of the Star Trek finales...save for Voyager and Enterprise in my personal opinion...were awesome.

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Old July 1 2014, 05:31 PM   #18
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This angle looks realistic, this one is open for debate, I'd say. But with a physical tent surrounded by "real" vegetation, the intention appears to be to feature an outdoor setting.
I'd never noticed before, but that railing behind the main cast in that second shot, to me, echoes the railing from the E-D. If true, that's kinda neat (even though they've been on the E-E for a while).
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Old July 1 2014, 05:56 PM   #19
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This angle looks realistic, this one is open for debate, I'd say. But with a physical tent surrounded by "real" vegetation, the intention appears to be to feature an outdoor setting.
I'd never noticed before, but that railing behind the main cast in that second shot, to me, echoes the railing from the E-D. If true, that's kinda neat (even though they've been on the E-E for a while).
I was just about to say that, haha! It looks like Riker's in the captain's chair. Hahah! I love it!
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Old July 1 2014, 07:40 PM   #20
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How come Troi is wearing a dress to get married - a duty uniform was good enough in "Balance of Terror"!
Bah! They should be nude anyway...
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Old July 1 2014, 08:06 PM   #21
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I believe that a separate wedding on Betazed was mentioned as their next destination, hence the non-nudity on Earth.
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Old July 1 2014, 09:30 PM   #22
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I believe that a separate wedding on Betazed was mentioned as their next destination, hence the non-nudity on Earth.
You're correct. I guess it was a double wedding. One on Earth for Riker and one on Betazed for Troi. Too bad Troi never had a chance to get married on Betazed. Immediately after the battle with Shinzon, Riker and Troi were in negotiations to talk to the Romulans. But who knows, maybe they were still able to get married on Betazed.
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Old July 2 2014, 12:40 PM   #23
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One of the novels has Wesley appearing at the weeding naked out of thin air. He thought it WAS a betazoid wedding. ;-)
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Old July 2 2014, 02:52 PM   #24
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Also, I hated Troi's dress with a passion. It did not seem to be appropriate for someone of Deanna's years.
As an officer in Starfleet why wasn't she in her dress uniform?

Honestly can say I didn't notice the scenery, so it obviously had no impact on me.
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Old July 2 2014, 07:36 PM   #25
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Two words: Bad directing. Stuart Baird's talents obviously lies in the editing room...NOT the director's chair.
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Seriously. It's a shame that this happened. Jonathan Frakes should have directed the movie.
I tend to agree with you. I know it's not the direction TPTB wanted to go, but in the end Frakes would have been a much better choice.
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Old July 3 2014, 12:10 PM   #26
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Also, I hated Troi's dress with a passion. It did not seem to be appropriate for someone of Deanna's years.
As an officer in Starfleet why wasn't she in her dress uniform?
Being married in her Dress Uniform would've been most appropriate and agreeable, indeed! What I suspect is that this was pretty much the only oppportunity, really, to show Deanna all dolled up, to underline for the audience why Shinzon might take such a fancy to her, later on. But even with that logic involved, the dress still looked "wrong" on her. Something much simpler, classier and more elegant should've been employed ... it looks like a Prom dress.
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Old July 5 2014, 03:56 PM   #27
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This angle looks realistic, this one is open for debate, I'd say. But with a physical tent surrounded by "real" vegetation, the intention appears to be to feature an outdoor setting.

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They never really said, did they? I assumed they were meant to be in Alaska, but for all we know, they're just on the holodeck.
I thought it was a holodeck in the movie but it must have been meant to be in Alaska looking at the tent shot.
Yeh it was rubbish but I've seen worse in some of the other Star Trek movies.
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Old July 5 2014, 04:12 PM   #28
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Also, I hated Troi's dress with a passion. It did not seem to be appropriate for someone of Deanna's years.
As an officer in Starfleet why wasn't she in her dress uniform?
Being married in her Dress Uniform would've been most appropriate and agreeable, indeed! What I suspect is that this was pretty much the only oppportunity, really, to show Deanna all dolled up, to underline for the audience why Shinzon might take such a fancy to her, later on. But even with that logic involved, the dress still looked "wrong" on her. Something much simpler, classier and more elegant should've been employed ... it looks like a Prom dress.
My sister and her husband were active duty military when they got married. Neither one wore a uniform in the ceremony.
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Old July 8 2014, 08:43 AM   #29
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Two words: Bad directing. Stuart Baird's talents obviously lies in the editing room...NOT the director's chair.
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Seriously. It's a shame that this happened. Jonathan Frakes should have directed the movie.
I tend to agree with you. I know it's not the direction TPTB wanted to go, but in the end Frakes would have been a much better choice.
I'm sure Mr. Berman regrets getting Baird to direct the movie to this day. Well, live and (hopefully) learn I guess.
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Old July 8 2014, 06:14 PM   #30
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One of the novels has Wesley appearing at the weeding naked out of thin air. He thought it WAS a betazoid wedding. ;-)
That was actually a decent novel, from the "A Time to..." series. Him appearing out of thin air naked was actually the authors explanation for why Wesley was in Uniform at the wedding even though he wasn't a commissioned officer.
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