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Old July 1 2014, 05:42 PM   #31
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Re: First Contact and the Borg attack

Personally, I've always believed that the Borg couldn't possibly have become as big a threat as they are without assimilating as many people as possible. They're too willing to throw away the lives of drones for even the smallest imaginable gain - they clearly consider drones not just replaceable but immediately replaceable, like replacing a battery. Even cloning probably wouldn't produce drones that fast in that large numbers, so the logical explanation is they expect to replace every drone lost and more as soon as the resistance is overcome and assimilation begins.
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Old July 1 2014, 07:17 PM   #32
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Re: First Contact and the Borg attack

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My thought process is that the traveling back in time was a last ditch effort once the invasion failed.
Same here.
Me too.

As for why the Borg didn't go back in time when they were still in the Delta Quadrant (and thus unreachable by Starfleet)? Hubris, probably. The Borg believe that they can afford to wait until whenever they want. They're so confident in their ability to overcome any threat that they don't take a lot of steps to get around it. So they felt no need to time travel until it was absolutely necessary.
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Old July 3 2014, 03:41 AM   #33
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This is purely subjective, but I could never reconcile the Borg's pursuit of perfection with those ugly rubber implants. Assimilated 24th Century tech should have been so much more efficient and subtle.
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Old July 3 2014, 02:36 PM   #34
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This is purely subjective, but I could never reconcile the Borg's pursuit of perfection with those ugly rubber implants. Assimilated 24th Century tech should have been so much more efficient and subtle.
Agreed. Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe the Borg Queen was into S&M before she became queen?
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Old July 3 2014, 04:58 PM   #35
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Re: First Contact and the Borg attack

Perhaps the Borg decided at the last moment that they needed to nuetralize the threat of the Federation in the past, but instead of assimilation, they go with time travel and assassination because they simply want to open the door for their future 24th century assimilation mission, when the larger cubes can take over worlds like Vulcan and Andor. I half imagine that the Vulcans could have destroyed the Borg attempts to assimllate Earth shortly after the arrived. And even if they did not, it wouldn't have been as much of a gain for the Borg in the 21st century, but would have been viable by the 24th century.

But that isn't really about the battle is it? How many ships did Starfleet send against that cube and how long was that running fight from contact all the way back to Sol? It should take a while to get from the Romulan border all the way back to Earth even with one of the fastest starships in the fleet. One would speculate days rather than hours, but travel across Federation space has never been very consistant. Nor has the Romulan border always been extremely far away given that it still had to be within fighting range of at best Warp 5 equipped starships for the Romulan war that was over two hundred years prior to this attack by the Borg.
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Old July 3 2014, 05:58 PM   #36
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This is purely subjective, but I could never reconcile the Borg's pursuit of perfection with those ugly rubber implants. Assimilated 24th Century tech should have been so much more efficient and subtle.
Agreed. Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe the Borg Queen was into S&M before she became queen?
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Old July 4 2014, 12:09 AM   #37
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This is purely subjective, but I could never reconcile the Borg's pursuit of perfection with those ugly rubber implants. Assimilated 24th Century tech should have been so much more efficient and subtle.
Agreed. Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe the Borg Queen was into S&M before she became queen?
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Right... the Alice Kridge + Data scenes weren't remotely sexual.
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