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Old June 24 2014, 07:00 AM   #1
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Am I the only one?

I just started my first rewatch and is it just me? Or did anyone else get the idea that is was not above Phlox to claim that Trip and T'Pol needed that decon in Broken Bow when in fact it was a harmless placebo?

He did express almost manic joy in observing humans interact. Even wanted to watch that one couple mate! And then later on the neuropressure was all his idea. Im sure he had some other treatment regimen at hand in the event a Vulcan was not handy to treat human insomnia.

TnT was all Phlox's idea from the pilot.
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Old June 24 2014, 07:17 AM   #2
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Re: Am I the only one?

I never cared for Phlox and/or his "Alternative Medicine" approach ...
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Old June 24 2014, 07:18 AM   #3
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So you think he's a big perv? Treating them like his lab animals, sticking them in the blue room to see if any primitive courtship rituals occurred?
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Old June 24 2014, 07:56 AM   #4
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T'Polismygirl wrote: View Post
I just started my first rewatch and is it just me? Or did anyone else get the idea that is was not above Phlox to claim that Trip and T'Pol needed that decon in Broken Bow when in fact it was a harmless placebo?

He did express almost manic joy in observing humans interact. Even wanted to watch that one couple mate! And then later on the neuropressure was all his idea. Im sure he had some other treatment regimen at hand in the event a Vulcan was not handy to treat human insomnia.

TnT was all Phlox's idea from the pilot.
If you feel the need to blame someone for those godawful decon gel scenes, don't blame John Billingsly. Blame the suits at UPN for wanting to inject random pointless "sex" into Star Trek in an effort to boost the ratings with the lowest common denominator of viewer.

In-universe explanation: Phlox is an alien, and you can't attribute human mores and behaviors onto an extraterrestrial being.

Now with that said, it's totally obvious that Phlox was trying to get those two together from the start. Maybe he saw Trip's extreme racism toward Vulcans (and T'Pol's admittedly low regard for humans as well) and decided that he was going to play goodwill ambassador.
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Old June 24 2014, 08:18 AM   #5
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Re: Am I the only one?

As the series goes on, there are continual clues that Phlox is just a leering doctor who loves talking about sex.
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Old June 24 2014, 09:11 AM   #6
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But that's his culture. He has 3 wives and is non-mongamous. He is a Denobulan conservative!
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Old June 24 2014, 11:26 AM   #7
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So you think he's a big perv? Treating them like his lab animals, sticking them in the blue room to see if any primitive courtship rituals occurred?
Well when you put it that way.....yeah I guess I am

I had always thought his idea to pair them originated after the Xindi attack. Was just shocked to realize that it's conceivable that the genesis of TnT is in S1:E1!
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Old June 24 2014, 12:08 PM   #8
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SO in this scene Phlox was really going mad experimental then.

I'm surprised this was allowed on television.

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Old June 24 2014, 01:07 PM   #9
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Dukhat wrote: View Post
T'Polismygirl wrote: View Post
I just started my first rewatch and is it just me? Or did anyone else get the idea that is was not above Phlox to claim that Trip and T'Pol needed that decon in Broken Bow when in fact it was a harmless placebo?

He did express almost manic joy in observing humans interact. Even wanted to watch that one couple mate! And then later on the neuropressure was all his idea. Im sure he had some other treatment regimen at hand in the event a Vulcan was not handy to treat human insomnia.

TnT was all Phlox's idea from the pilot.
If you feel the need to blame someone for those godawful decon gel scenes, don't blame John Billingsly. Blame the suits at UPN for wanting to inject random pointless "sex" into Star Trek in an effort to boost the ratings with the lowest common denominator of viewer.

In-universe explanation: Phlox is an alien, and you can't attribute human mores and behaviors onto an extraterrestrial being.

Now with that said, it's totally obvious that Phlox was trying to get those two together from the start. Maybe he saw Trip's extreme racism toward Vulcans (and T'Pol's admittedly low regard for humans as well) and decided that he was going to play goodwill ambassador.
I like these explanations the best. They cover all the bases.
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Old June 24 2014, 01:42 PM   #10
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Cue UPN insisting Enterprise do an allegory episode to internet porn addiction... Any reason to have John Billingsley wander around sickbay again, tackle out!
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Old June 24 2014, 02:04 PM   #11
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Re: Am I the only one?

bbailey861 wrote: View Post
Dukhat wrote: View Post
T'Polismygirl wrote: View Post
I just started my first rewatch and is it just me? Or did anyone else get the idea that is was not above Phlox to claim that Trip and T'Pol needed that decon in Broken Bow when in fact it was a harmless placebo?

He did express almost manic joy in observing humans interact. Even wanted to watch that one couple mate! And then later on the neuropressure was all his idea. Im sure he had some other treatment regimen at hand in the event a Vulcan was not handy to treat human insomnia.

TnT was all Phlox's idea from the pilot.
If you feel the need to blame someone for those godawful decon gel scenes, don't blame John Billingsly. Blame the suits at UPN for wanting to inject random pointless "sex" into Star Trek in an effort to boost the ratings with the lowest common denominator of viewer.

In-universe explanation: Phlox is an alien, and you can't attribute human mores and behaviors onto an extraterrestrial being.

Now with that said, it's totally obvious that Phlox was trying to get those two together from the start. Maybe he saw Trip's extreme racism toward Vulcans (and T'Pol's admittedly low regard for humans as well) and decided that he was going to play goodwill ambassador.
I like these explanations the best. They cover all the bases.

I agree
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Old June 26 2014, 01:45 AM   #12
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Melakon wrote: View Post
As the series goes on, there are continual clues that Phlox is just a leering doctor who loves talking about sex.
I read something about this somewhere...
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Old June 26 2014, 03:27 AM   #13
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teacake wrote: View Post
SO in this scene Phlox was really going mad experimental then.

I'm surprised this was allowed on television.

What's wrong with that? It's not as though Archer's touching a pussy... -cat.
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Old June 26 2014, 04:30 AM   #14
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The goo rubbing was creepy and a little embaressing to watch at times.
And yeah, Phlox is a creepy peeping tom. I never could warm up to him.
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Old June 26 2014, 06:41 AM   #15
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Gaith wrote: View Post
teacake wrote: View Post
SO in this scene Phlox was really going mad experimental then.

I'm surprised this was allowed on television.

What's wrong with that? It's not as though Archer's touching a pussy... -cat.
And it's not as if he screwed the pooch, despite a common expression.
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