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Old August 18 2014, 02:59 PM   #316
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The story with Chandler's family back in the US was kind of interesting, and part of me kind of wishes they had developed that over the course of the season, kind of like what they did with Helo stuck on Caprica back in BSG's first season.
The difference is that Helo was a member of Galactica's crew, so telling his story was part of telling the whole crew's story. In this case, the story of The Captain's Family only equates to a side story. Following the crew is more important.
Oh, I know, that's why I said "part of me kind of wishes." It would have made an interesting side story, seeing life in the US developing over the course of the season, but I realize the focus is on the Nathan James and its crew and such a subplot would have eaten valuable storytelling time from the focus of the series. And if given the choice, I would have kept things exactly as they are.

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I get that we had to care about the people in the test, and adding the Master Chief represents leadership and whatnot, but other than us knowing the face, why was the Chief Engineer in the test? On the list of people they can't afford to lose if it goes badly, she's right up there, so dumb call. Little too heavy on officers in the test when the ship should be 90% enlisted crew anyway, so pick more volunteers from there...
Well, as I recall, there was also a certain criteria the ones being tested had to meet to qualify for the tests, so likely the Chief Engineer was the only volunteer who met the criteria Dr. Scott was looking for. In fact, the Chief Engineer was the oldest female being tested, and I think she's the oldest female we've seen on the crew of the Nathan James. Master Chief was chosen because of his age and gender, maybe she was as well?
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Old August 18 2014, 03:04 PM   #317
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The Doc secretly hates ginger hair. She's trying to kill them off but being subtle about it.
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Old August 18 2014, 03:17 PM   #318
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I get that we had to care about the people in the test, and adding the Master Chief represents leadership and whatnot, but other than us knowing the face, why was the Chief Engineer in the test? On the list of people they can't afford to lose if it goes badly, she's right up there, so dumb call. Little too heavy on officers in the test when the ship should be 90% enlisted crew anyway, so pick more volunteers from there...
I think she was more there, along with the other recurring kid to add a greater sense of danger. We could all probably guess that Tex, Foster, and the Chief were going to make it in one fashion or another, but the recurring/secondary character's are a bit more of a toss up. Still wasn't shocked that the only one that ended up dying was the one who appeared in what? One other episode? And gave a nice long tragic back story infodump in this episode.

So yeah nothing really unexpected, but it wasn't half bad.
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Old August 18 2014, 03:32 PM   #319
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I was kind of expecting the Master Chief to be the one that got killed mainly because that conversation between him, Chandler and Slattery after the funeral kind of felt like one of those spotlight moments you get in an episode where a prominent character gets killed. But, clearly I was wrong.
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Old August 18 2014, 03:50 PM   #320
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I was kind of expecting the Master Chief to be the one that got killed mainly because that conversation between him, Chandler and Slattery after the funeral kind of felt like one of those spotlight moments you get in an episode where a prominent character gets killed. But, clearly I was wrong.
I didn't really think any of the main's were going to die, but In the situation presented by the episode I'd probably pick him as most likely to. Charles Parnell is awesome though so I'm really glad they didn't throw in a curve ball like that
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Old August 18 2014, 06:08 PM   #321
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If you really want to keep score, the characters in the main cast credits are:

Commander Tom Chandler
Dr. Rachel Scott
XO Mike Slattery
CMC Hugh Jeter
Quincy Tophet
Danny Green
Kara Foster
Alisha Granderson

Although if you go by the TNT website, Dane, Mitra and Baldwin are the only cast members.
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Old August 18 2014, 06:25 PM   #322
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If you really want to keep score, the characters in the main cast credits are:

Commander Tom Chandler
Dr. Rachel Scott
XO Mike Slattery
CMC Hugh Jeter
Quincy Tophet
Danny Green
Kara Foster
Alisha Granderson

Although if you go by the TNT website, Dane, Mitra and Baldwin are the only cast members.
Isn't Ferguson up there to? Coulda swore he was. Still funny seeing him as Tex, the last thing I remember seeing him in was Caprica as Vergis

Granderson kinda puzzles me as a main character. I know she is one, but I'll have to rewatch the season. Christina Elmore just doesn't seem to get a lot of screen time/lines compared to the others.
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Old August 18 2014, 06:31 PM   #323
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Isn't Ferguson up there to? Coulda swore he was.
Nope, he is listed in the guest cast of every episode he's in. Which is every episode except the pilot.
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Old August 20 2014, 03:14 PM   #324
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Even for something as innocuous as the Navy's twice-yearly fitness test, females are asked if there's any chance they could be pregnant, so either the docs utterly failed in their questioning (not likely, as we saw them rejecting people), or that LT seriously messed up, again.
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Old August 20 2014, 03:31 PM   #325
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Even for something as innocuous as the Navy's twice-yearly fitness test, females are asked if there's any chance they could be pregnant, so either the docs utterly failed in their questioning (not likely, as we saw them rejecting people), or that LT seriously messed up, again.
It's more fun imagining the Lt messing up...
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Old August 20 2014, 06:03 PM   #326
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Captain Chandler: "Congratulations on your pregnancy, LT, which began under improper circumstances which you've already been disciplined for. You then proceeded to recklessly risk your own health as well as the study itself by concealing information from Dr. Scott. Looks as though the galley's found its newest head dishwasher."
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Old August 20 2014, 06:10 PM   #327
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Judging from her reaction at the end of the episode, I don't think the Lt. knew herself that she was pregnant. Dr. Scott is at fault for not noticing it when she first did the blood workup as part of her screening for test applicants.
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Old August 20 2014, 07:38 PM   #328
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^ Ahem...

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Even for something as innocuous as the Navy's twice-yearly fitness test, females are asked if there's any chance they could be pregnant
The docs may have messed up in not pressing her on this point, given her romance was made common knowledge, but there's no way she wasn't primarily at fault there. For all the docs knew, she had long-term contraception or knew herself to be infertile or hadn't had that sort of relations.
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Old August 20 2014, 08:01 PM   #329
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Oh, well if you said it, that makes it official policy for sure.

How about citing a link to back that claim up?

(Hint: That question is very unlikely to be asked because its a phenomenally stupid question to ask. Asking if they are or think they may be pregnant is one thing. Asking if there's any chance at all? That's just a pointless and stupid thing to ask. "Well, sure, there's always the chance for immaculate conception, I guess...")
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Old August 20 2014, 09:03 PM   #330
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^ Ahem...

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Even for something as innocuous as the Navy's twice-yearly fitness test, females are asked if there's any chance they could be pregnant
The docs may have messed up in not pressing her on this point, given her romance was made common knowledge, but there's no way she wasn't primarily at fault there. For all the docs knew, she had long-term contraception or knew herself to be infertile or hadn't had that sort of relations.

"Ahem" what? If she didn't think she was pregnant, why would she say otherwise? There's no way she was primarily at fault there. The Doc is responsible for examining the results of the test screening/blood workup. For all the docs knew, she could have any number of undiagnosed conditions that would have disqualified the Lt. from the test. They shouldn't be taking the Lt.'s word on it. If they are, why bother doing blood workups at all?

The doc had the relevant information and fucked up.
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