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Old August 5 2014, 09:43 PM   #76
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Re: Looks like Netflix is interested in making a New Star Trek Show

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Just skimming this thread now that it has devolved away from the topic, but this is a beauty here:



So, basically, ignore the movies that disprove your point. Got it.
You're assuming I consider Abrams stuff trek.

Mighty presumptuous of you.
It's got 'Star Trek' right in the title. You may not like it, but it's Star Trek, baby.
By that logic, I could make a YouTube video of myself shooting laser beams at a green puppet, call it 'Star Trek' and it would be Star Trek.

IMO for something to be spiritually, not just legally, Star Trek it needs to be creatively in sync with the original material.

I consider Abrams Trek to be a different Star Trek than our Star Trek. Just like Nolan Batman is a different Batman than comic book Batman. Same IP, different universe. The relationship between Abrams Trek and our Trek is similar to the relationship between the show 'Elementary' and the show 'Sherlock'.
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Old August 5 2014, 09:54 PM   #77
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Re: Looks like Netflix is interested in making a New Star Trek Show

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I consider Abrams Trek to be a different Star Trek than our Star Trek. Just like Nolan Batman is a different Batman than comic book Batman. Same IP, different universe. The relationship between Abrams Trek and our Trek is similar to the relationship between the show 'Elementary' and the show 'Sherlock'.
I'm pretty sure he would agree with you, hence the whole alternate universe/timeline.
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Old August 5 2014, 10:25 PM   #78
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If netflix ever had the op to do something like this, it'd have to be a section31 show. That's pretty close to what they've already got with the Othello-like HOUSE OF CARDS, but doing it in the TREK universe lets you see the corruption happening in a much different light, showing WHY it these enhanced humans can act all saintly while living in paradise, and the personal cost in ethics to make that happen.
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Old August 5 2014, 10:39 PM   #79
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Re: Looks like Netflix is interested in making a New Star Trek Show

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You're assuming I consider Abrams stuff trek.

Mighty presumptuous of you.
It's got 'Star Trek' right in the title. You may not like it, but it's Star Trek, baby.
By that logic, I could make a YouTube video of myself shooting laser beams at a green puppet, call it 'Star Trek' and it would be Star Trek.

IMO for something to be spiritually, not just legally, Star Trek it needs to be creatively in sync with the original material.

I consider Abrams Trek to be a different Star Trek than our Star Trek. Just like Nolan Batman is a different Batman than comic book Batman. Same IP, different universe. The relationship between Abrams Trek and our Trek is similar to the relationship between the show 'Elementary' and the show 'Sherlock'.
Sorry but if it's legally called Star Trek, then it *is* Star Trek - no matter how much you personally may not like its creative direction.

The great headline news is what *you* consider Star Trek is still there & always will be.
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Old August 5 2014, 11:07 PM   #80
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Re: Looks like Netflix is interested in making a New Star Trek Show

In my opinion, the "fans" are the reason there probably won't ever be another tv Trek series. Maybe if they'd pull the board out of their ass ... but that won't happen.
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Old August 6 2014, 01:40 AM   #81
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Like I said, the beautiful thing about this world is we're all allowed to have our own opinions.
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Old August 6 2014, 03:39 AM   #82
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Re: Looks like Netflix is interested in making a New Star Trek Show

I'm of the opinion that 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4.

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In my opinion, the "fans" are the reason there probably won't ever be another tv Trek series. Maybe if they'd pull the board out of their ass ... but that won't happen.
But I like that board up my ass!

I doubt those fans ever affected much though, and there almost has to be another Trek show at some point.
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Old August 6 2014, 05:31 AM   #83
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As Kirk would say, "I don't want that board taken out of my ass -- I need that board up my ass. It helps define who we are, if we lose that we lose ourselves."
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Old August 6 2014, 08:33 AM   #84
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Studios would rather have more viewers than "fans." Fans alone can't keep a Trek series afloat.
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Old August 6 2014, 09:31 AM   #85
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IMO for something to be spiritually, not just legally, Star Trek it needs to be creatively in sync with the original material.
To carry over a point I supported recently in another thread, none of the Star Trek spin-off series (that means TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT) have been "creatively in sync with the original material" (that means TOS), at least not fully, though probably TAS comes the closest.
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Old August 6 2014, 10:23 AM   #86
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Studios would rather have more viewers than "fans." Fans alone can't keep a Trek series afloat.
This.
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Old August 6 2014, 04:04 PM   #87
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Studios would rather have more viewers than "fans." Fans alone can't keep a Trek series afloat.
This.
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Old August 6 2014, 04:23 PM   #88
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If netflix ever had the op to do something like this, it'd have to be a section31 show. That's pretty close to what they've already got with the Othello-like HOUSE OF CARDS, but doing it in the TREK universe lets you see the corruption happening in a much different light, showing WHY it these enhanced humans can act all saintly while living in paradise, and the personal cost in ethics to make that happen.
For me, something like the above would hold zero interest. I watch Star Trek to see big, brash heroes explore the universe and encounter all kinds of weird stuff.
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Old August 6 2014, 10:08 PM   #89
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If netflix ever had the op to do something like this, it'd have to be a section31 show. That's pretty close to what they've already got with the Othello-like HOUSE OF CARDS, but doing it in the TREK universe lets you see the corruption happening in a much different light, showing WHY it these enhanced humans can act all saintly while living in paradise, and the personal cost in ethics to make that happen.
Why the heck would it 'have to be' a Section 31 show?

Either recast the crew again or set it on another Constitution-class vessel on the five-year-mission and explore some strange new worlds.
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Old August 6 2014, 11:04 PM   #90
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I don't think it necessarily needs to be Section 31 (and I personally have very little interest in that), but I also think it would be hard to have it just be random, episodic exploration. I think the S31 thing points to the trend of recent shows to be a lot more serial, and a lot different in tone. Netflix produced shows so far fit that mold. The whole idea behind a show on Netflix is that they release the whole season at once, which very much opens the door for a more serial approach.

This all may be why Netflix isn't much of an appropriate place for Trek.
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