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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old July 10 2014, 01:38 AM   #61
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Nemesis lover right here!
Flawed as the movie was, it is also my favorite of any of the TNG movies.

1. It actually looked and felt like a big screen movie, whereas the previous three TNG flicks looked more like overblown, two part TNG episodes. They certainly worked better on the small screen, full frame format, than they did as an attempt at big screen movies.

2. Jerry Goldsmith really delivered on a kick ass score. I loved the uptempo opening cue as the camera closes in on Romulus and the Imperial Senate. Got my blood going and my foot tapping. (I certainly liked it better than his opening theme to First Contact, which, in my very humble opinion, should've also sounded much more ominous ala Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, and then ended with its more uplifting and hopeful end titles music.)

3. Picard driving a dune buggy! To me, that was great....to see Picard do something that made most fanboys quiver...to see Picard do something fun, and have it end up in a cool action beat.

4. Shinzon, not so much for the character, but for the actor who portrayed him (Tom Hardy). I thought Hardy brought a very cool, naturalistic and understated edge to Shinzon. Much of what HaventGotALife stated was pretty much what I enjoyed about Shinzon and Picard. Those conversations...the dinner, Picard's capture, and the holographic meeting in Picard's ready room....those were some very well done scenes.

5. The space battle! HOLY SHIT! This thing took up practically the entire last half of the movie. And what I really loved about it....the fact that it wasn't "two battle effects shots, and twenty internal shots of the crew getting thrown around, announcing...'incoming fire'!" It was a full on, knock down, drag out, no holds barred space battle. The budget certainly reflected on this well.

6. The Enterprise/Scimitar ramming scene! Yes, there should've been no survivors whatsoever, but this was a pure-adrenaline, space-fantasy action moment that rocked both the big screen, and the Dolby units that supported its audio. This shot alone was worth the price of admission in my book.

7. The end titles (as per the DVD/Blu-ray versions). The end titles in the theatrical release, and the Official Soundtrack were, as usual, serene and understated. But the end titles as played in the DVD version screamed "big screen Trek epic"! To me, the score for Nemesis was the late, great Jerry Goldsmith's best score since "Star Trek The Motion Picture".

But, that's just me.... I was raving about the movie after I saw it theatrically on opening night. My friends were not so forgiving, and one even said: "Dude, we serious have got to get you to stop defending this movie." LOL!
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Hahahaha.....if I'd have found three more points, I'd have bowled a strike!
Could have sworn I saw someone else add a few on. But I would add

8. The dark and adult feeling to the film. I did not come out of the theater feeling like I just saw something catered to family friendly audiences, which I appreciated.

9. Picard admitting that he was tempted to take Shinzon at his word but acknowledging that he could not allow his personal feelings to sway his judgement.

10. Finally... a REAL cloaking device which couldn't actually be seen as a distortion, disabled by a technobabble energgy pulse, or tracked by the ships impulse gas.
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[QUOTE=The dark and adult feeling to the film. I did not come out of the theater feeling like I just saw something catered to family friendly audiences, which I appreciated.[/QUOTE]

This is one of the main things I liked about it, it wasn't needlessly violent or anything, but it had just enough 'edge' to it to make it a bit more exciting to watch, much like TWOK (which it was clearly imitating), I certainly didn't need to see more of the lame humor we saw in Insurrection.
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Old July 11 2014, 01:46 PM   #63
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The dark and adult feeling to the film. I did not come out of the theater feeling like I just saw something catered to family friendly audiences, which I appreciated.[/QUOTE wrote:

This is one of the main things I liked about it, it wasn't needlessly violent or anything, but it had just enough 'edge' to it to make it a bit more exciting to watch, much like TWOK (which it was clearly imitating), I certainly didn't need to see more of the lame humor we saw in Insurrection.
IMO The Voyage Home compromised Trek. I'm tempted to say 'ruined' but that is being too harsh. Neither TMP, TWOK, nor TSFS felt the need to make the audience chuckle every few minutes. Nemesis did tone the needless humor down a bit, which I appreciated, but didn't entire leave it behind. NuTrek seems to have found a good balance.
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Totally agree, TVH, whilst successful and entertaining also marked the point where we began to laugh at the characters rather than with them from time to time. TSFS had it's moments of humour too, but nearly all of them were well judged and were integral to the plot, like you say, the JJ movies have a similar balance to them also.
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