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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old June 13 2014, 05:59 PM   #31
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

Well, each to their own. I maintain the TWOK BD is a decent product, and certainly not some kind of quick cash grab. I guess we all see things differently, so what's "off throughout" to some is simply a small change for the better to others.

Agree to disagree I guess.
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Old June 13 2014, 06:09 PM   #32
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

Vintage review of the Trek Blu-rays......

Scroll down and check out the abomination that is the color for TWOK on the Khan comparison shot.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/21/revi...on-on-blu-ray/


If someone prefers that....then there is no help for them IMO.

I want a true representation of the color and ALL the versions of all the movies and deleted scenes would be nice.

Day one purchase for me---------what ever the price is. Otherwise real happy with my DVDs of the Director's cuts.

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Old June 13 2014, 06:29 PM   #33
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

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RoboCop will get 4K restoration, but none of the sequels ever will.
Will?

It came out months ago. looks great!


I just don't see Paramount doing any restoration or changes to any of the Trek movies
until they do 4K versions....who knows when that will happen, but I would
think they would eventually.
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Old June 13 2014, 06:41 PM   #34
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Borjis wrote: View Post
MakeshiftPython wrote: View Post
RoboCop will get 4K restoration, but none of the sequels ever will.
Will?

It came out months ago. looks great!


I just don't see Paramount doing any restoration or changes to any of the Trek movies
until they do 4K versions....who knows when that will happen, but I would
think they would eventually.
I agree. When the time comes they will do bare-bones 4K transfers which will be for streaming, NOT for a 4K disc format and even if that did happen years from now---they would probably still only include the theatrical with no deleted scenes.

So yay, maybe someday years from now when we are being fed another format we may get the correct color timing!!!!
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Old June 13 2014, 06:52 PM   #35
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Doubtful. Maybe a better transfer someday with accurate colors and no DNR , but not 4k. TWOK was the only film worthy of such treatment.
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Old June 13 2014, 06:58 PM   #36
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

Here's another TWOK BD review from the well respected Hi Def Digest site...

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2460/startrek2_wok.html

"In other respects, the disc has satisfyingly deep colors. Some viewers have pointed out that the color balance leans more toward blue than any previous video transfer. I'm not prepared to comment on which is more accurate to the original photography. Taken on its own, the Blu-ray doesn't look incorrect. Contrasts generally look good, though the transfer is a little dark overall. Some of the model shots of the starships seem perhaps a bit washed out, at least in comparison to the first movie, but that may simply be a difference in the way their respective effects houses shot them"

I find it incredulous posters are referred to as needing "help" simply because they hold a different opinion to others. It's arrogant, rude and unnecessary. Can't we keep this cordial?
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Old June 13 2014, 07:05 PM   #37
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

Anything to say about Director's cuts?

What's the title of this thread?

I want to see Director's cuts. I've been watching the TWOK extended cut since it aired on ABC-TV in 1985. Was thrilled when it came to DVD.

Now I want that cut for Blu-ray---really all 3 cuts ABC, Theatrical and Director's via branching.

Thoughts on that happening?
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Old June 13 2014, 07:14 PM   #38
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Anything to say about Director's cuts?

What's the title of this thread?

I want to see Director's cuts. I've been watching the TWOK extended cut since it aired on ABC-TV in 1985. Was thrilled when it came to DVD.

Now I want that cut for Blu-ray---really all 3 cuts ABC, Theatrical and Director's via branching.

Thoughts on that happening?
Yes, I posted my thoughts on a possible director's cut release in post #11.

Grant, I just don't understand why you're getting so worked up. I've really tried my best to keep this friendly. Please, just chill out - it's only a difference of opinion!

I'll be right there with you should the BD's get the re-releases you've described.
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Old June 13 2014, 07:21 PM   #39
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Just remembered.............

any revisiting of the movies on Blu-ray should fix the horrible and bewildering "windowboxing" of the credits in Search For Spock.

Why they felt it necessary to switch the aspect ratio from 2:35 to 2:00 is beyond me.

It has been suggested that that did this incredible foul-up because someone was afraid that "Dame Judith Anderson" wouldn't fit on some sets.

So for the ENTIRE credits section the credits are displayed with black bars on the sides.

For god's sake their were so many easy and cheap ways to have prevented her name from being cut off besides altering the aspect ratio for 3+ full minutes!

Quick, lazy, inept release all around.

Also check out how they turned up the brightness so much in the scene from TFF---that the "God" figure is not visible! WTF? Was it complete amateur hour or let your kids play with the controls day at the office?

http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/21/revi...on-on-blu-ray/
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Old June 13 2014, 08:29 PM   #40
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I want to see Director's cuts. I've been watching the TWOK extended cut since it aired on ABC-TV in 1985. Was thrilled when it came to DVD.
I actually prefer the theatrical cuts of most of the Trek films, including TWoK. As far as the Blu-ray color being wrong goes: the only scene I notice it in is when the Enterprise is leaving Regula One.


Now I want that cut for Blu-ray---really all 3 cuts ABC, Theatrical and Director's via branching.
I can definitely get behind this.
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Old June 14 2014, 07:21 AM   #41
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

My wishlist for future BD releases:

- The TMP SLV
- The TWOK DC with correct color timing
- TSFP with the correct (non windowboxed) opening credits (what Grant said)
- TUC Extended Version without the changes made to the Special Edition (the flashbacks)
- A longer cut of Generations (there are some deleted scenes that should be restored)
- A much longer cut of Nemesis (almost all the deleted scenes should be in the movie)
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Old June 14 2014, 07:38 AM   #42
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Re: Director's cuts in blu-ray?

Well I had bought that 10 movie DVD set, and I really only bought it for the TOS movies.

While some of those Blu-Ray shots do look crisper (wow the scenes in TVH!) it's just not worth it to me to even bother.

If they:

1. Do TMP: DE in 4K
2. Color correct TWOK properly
3. Let Shatner do a DE of TFF and pony up some bucks for real Special FX, and not that backyard D-movie shit they did. Also please remove Uhura dance scene. I can live with the rest.

I'd buy a new set if those things were done.
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Old June 14 2014, 12:59 PM   #43
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Well I had bought that 10 movie DVD set, and I really only bought it for the TOS movies.

While some of those Blu-Ray shots do look crisper (wow the scenes in TVH!) it's just not worth it to me to even bother.

If they:

1. Do TMP: DE in 4K
2. Color correct TWOK properly
3. Let Shatner do a DE of TFF and pony up some bucks for real Special FX, and not that backyard D-movie shit they did. Also please remove Uhura dance scene. I can live with the rest.

I'd buy a new set if those things were done.
3. DE of TFF. I can definitely get behind this, whether or not Shatner is involved. I have and have heard many opinions on how this movie could be made better, and a FX makeover would help. Could this movie be given the Star Wars treatment, adding elements not in the original in service of filling out the film?
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Old June 14 2014, 01:54 PM   #44
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3. DE of TFF. I can definitely get behind this, whether or not Shatner is involved. I have and have heard many opinions on how this movie could be made better, and a FX makeover would help. Could this movie be given the Star Wars treatment, adding elements not in the original in service of filling out the film?
Please no! It's bad enough that they have ruined TMP with that awful DE. TFF is what it is, and it shouldn't be messed with some 25 years later. Incorporate some deleted scenes, yes ... but an FX makeover? No!
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Old June 14 2014, 04:57 PM   #45
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There's only one way to fix TFF and that's to go back in time and tell Shatner not to make that movie.
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