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Old May 26 2014, 02:31 PM   #1
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NASA artist Bob McCall's TMP paintings

NASA Artist Bob McCall did a total of four paintings for 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY with the one of the Pan Am space clipper departing Space Station V undoubtedly being the most popular one.

Given the 2001 allusions I always found present in TMP, I was rather surprised and fascinated that Bob McCall also did pre-production work for TMP:

http://filmsketchr.blogspot.de/2013/...n-picture.html

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Old May 26 2014, 03:16 PM   #2
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Great find, thanks for sharing

Be sure to also follow the link below the pictures to his homepage, a lot of very interesting (concept) paintings there.
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Old May 26 2014, 05:27 PM   #3
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NASA Artist Bob McCall did a total of four paintings for 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY with the one of the Pan Am space clipper departing Space Station V undoubtedly being the most popular one.

Given the 2001 allusions I always found present in TMP, I was rather surprised and fascinated that Bob McCall also did pre-production work for TMP:

http://filmsketchr.blogspot.de/2013/...n-picture.html

Enjoy!

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Most if not all of his TMP stuff is in a book he illustrated with text by Ben Bova. I have it somewhere, but don't recall the title - no, it's VISION OF THE FUTURE.

His work took place well into post, at the behest of Trumbull, but it is still conceptual stuff.
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Old May 26 2014, 08:54 PM   #4
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Re: NASA artist Bob McCall's TMP paintings

Didn't he also paint some of the background images actually used in the Spock Walk?
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Old May 26 2014, 09:23 PM   #5
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I've read conflicting accounts about that, but Trumbull initially intended that to be the case. It looks like McCall's stuff is the background, but I've never made a study of it. Frankly, am much more bothered about the triple or quadruple printing of frames while all those moons and planets are coming by than what is happening behind them.
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Old May 26 2014, 10:25 PM   #6
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The background behind those planets sure smacks of McCall's work.
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Old May 27 2014, 06:10 AM   #7
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He also did one or two pictures of the Enterprise that weren't in Robert's link. I have a reprint of one in storage. I sure miss McCall.
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Old May 27 2014, 02:02 PM   #8
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I really liked this painting of his because it really shows (better than the movie IMO) how HUGE V'Ger was!
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Old May 28 2014, 09:40 AM   #9
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^^ Indeed, I hadn't paid attention to the shadows V'ger (behind Earth) is casting, in comparison the alien probe from ST IV is a dwarf.

(I think the almost finalized Probert orbital office design and the scary nature of V'ger's maw distracted me )

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Old May 30 2014, 12:34 PM   #10
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What a shame Harrison Ellenshaw couldn't have gotten onboard for TMP, as well. He was probably the best matt painter in the industry at the tme.
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Re: NASA artist Bob McCall's TMP paintings

I think I saw some of the original McCall paintings at the Smithsonian in the mid or late 1980's, in a room at the Air and Space Museum (the TOS Enterprise model was hanging above them and she was operating, nacelles and all!)

Those paintings were amazing to see in person - I'll have to see if I can find the photos I snapped that day!
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He also did one or two pictures of the Enterprise that weren't in Robert's link. I have a reprint of one in storage. I sure miss McCall.

SHARE, please?

I like the added forecastle he placed on the Klingon cruiser's Cobra head--up top
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Old June 10 2014, 11:36 AM   #13
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KirkusOveractus wrote: View Post
I think I saw some of the original McCall paintings at the Smithsonian in the mid or late 1980's, in a room at the Air and Space Museum (the TOS Enterprise model was hanging above them and she was operating, nacelles and all!)
IIRC, it was the one from 2001 with the EVA Pod and the Discovery in background that was sharing space with the TOS Enterprise.

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Old June 11 2014, 04:14 AM   #14
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He also did one or two pictures of the Enterprise that weren't in Robert's link. I have a reprint of one in storage. I sure miss McCall.

SHARE, please?

I like the added forecastle he placed on the Klingon cruiser's Cobra head--up top
I bought a reprint of this one in the 1990s at a Star Trek exhibit at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum:



As is common with McCall works, the spectacular background often overshadows the subject. Note the interesting detail representing the warp field emitted by the engines. In McCall's vision, warp drive left a distinct, luminescent wake.


I'm fairly certain there was a second closeup of the Starship Enterprise, but don't remember the details. I did find this, which roughly corresponds to what I think the second painting looked like, but there's a noisy neuron in my skull who insists this isn't it ... still:


This image and the one above suggest to me that McCall may have been working from photos of the unlit model, or viewed it in person. Notice that there are no pools of self-lighting evident and the navigational deflector looks like unlit plastic. I'm sure he'd have painted it blue or amber had he seen clips from the movie.


I also found this black and white image that I believe is detail from a larger work:



Commissioning McCall to do this kind of work for the franchise was a flash of brilliance. It's a shame there aren't more examples.


EDIT TO ADD:

BJ and Robert Comsol thought this image made V'Ger look big. Here's another.
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Old June 11 2014, 10:49 AM   #15
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This image and the one above suggest to me that McCall may have been working from photos of the unlit model, or viewed it in person. Notice that there are no pools of self-lighting evident and the navigational deflector looks like unlit plastic. I'm sure he'd have painted it blue or amber had he seen clips from the movie.

BJ and Robert Comsol thought this image made V'Ger look big. Here's another.
These are great images, thanks for going through the hazzle of finding, posting and sharing these!

The one with the visible warp field reminds me how Andrew Probert described the effect (and in his officer's lounge proposal and sketch we also see that field).

The image above makes me wonder: Is that the Death Star on the left side?

And this other link makes V'ger still look a little bigger. WOW!

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