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Old June 24 2014, 07:13 AM   #31
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Re: Speculations on Star Trek 3?

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Well, I almost didn't see ST:ID in the theater because I despised ST2009(I was eventually dragged into it by friends), and I don't intend to see JJ3.

Because ST2009 sucked and ST:ID sucked more so it's safe to bet JJ3 will suck even more.

I also believe JJ will fuckup Star Wars too.
I think the problems with ST09 and STID have more to do with the scripts than the directing. Orci is terrible.

JJ is a technically skilled director. With Star Wars, he doesn't get to pick the writing team, so it may turn out to be a decent flick after all.

Now that Orci is in full control of ST3, both writing and directing, I can't imagine anything but a disaster.
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Old June 24 2014, 07:29 AM   #32
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I do not see any reason for Carol Marcus to be in the next TREK, unless it is to go back in time and restore the Romulan star system with some quasi-GENESIS Torpedo. Thus restoring Vulcan, Spock's ego and standing within the Romulan empire. Now, whether or not Kirk gets Carol pregnant remains to be seen. Personally, I do not see that element being introduced, in "this" universe. However, as far as an actual "bad guy" would go ... I wouldn't hazard a guess.
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Old June 24 2014, 08:48 AM   #33
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something like the garden of eden and a very difficult choice which J.D. Payne and Bob Orci have been talking about.
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Old June 24 2014, 09:05 AM   #34
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*Kirk (and apparently Chekov) not knowing that the phasers have been channeled through the warp drive.
There's no reason to assume Chekov didn't know. When Kirk ordered the phasers, Decker immediately countermanded. Chekov simply did what he was supposed to do, without giving anybody any lip. I imagine that if Decker hadn't been present, the scene would have played out something like this:
KIRK: Mister Chekov, stand by on phasers.
CHEKOV: Phasers inoperative, arming photon torpedoes.
KIRK: Mister Chekov, fire torpedoes.
Decker acted properly, of course. Under the circumstances, he couldn't simply assume that Chekov would catch Kirk's mistake. But he probably would have.
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Old June 24 2014, 10:33 AM   #35
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One thing we know for sure, Alice Eve won't be seen in her underwear again
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Old June 24 2014, 02:09 PM   #36
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One thing we know for sure, Alice Eve won't be seen in her underwear again
That's a good thing. If it doesn't serve the plot, it doesn't belong - and it definitely didn't serve the plot.
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Old June 24 2014, 02:27 PM   #37
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I think the problems with ST09 and STID have more to do with the scripts than the directing. Orci is terrible.

JJ is a technically skilled director. With Star Wars, he doesn't get to pick the writing team, so it may turn out to be a decent flick after all.

Now that Orci is in full control of ST3, both writing and directing, I can't imagine anything but a disaster.
I was watching a behind-the-scenes documentary on Ferris Bueller's Day Off on Biography Channel the other day and there was something they said that really stuck with me: whenever a movie is made, there are three movies actually there (or something to that effect, I don't remember the actual wording).

Hughes wrote the movie. There was a lot of stuff they filmed that wasn't in the script. When they got to the editing room, what had been filmed was darker and it was much more a comedy-drama that came in at two hours and forty-five minutes. They turned it into a straight comedy in the editing room.

I won't judge Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof on what actually made it into the final cut of the film, even though I enjoyed both of them. It would be interesting to see the early screenplay drafts of both films.

So I'll give Orci the opportunity to bring more of his vision to the big screen. I'll be there opening night.
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Old June 24 2014, 02:53 PM   #38
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If the Carol Marcus character wants to flaunt Alice Eve's wares to further entice and ensnare James T. Kirk, then that option should be on the table. They could well visit some beach somewhere, and there's Carol wearing a napkin around her hips - that should be ample justification for showing us more of Ms. Eve.

And Kirk and Carol could make out amongst the waves crashing on the rocks and those little burrowing worms in the wet sand and the bottle caps and odd bits of trash buried and strewn all over the beach. And as the music swells, David is conceived and all tradition and propriety is satisfied.
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Old June 24 2014, 03:07 PM   #39
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I do not see any reason for Carol Marcus to be in the next TREK, unless it is to go back in time and restore the Romulan star system with some quasi-GENESIS Torpedo. Thus restoring Vulcan, Spock's ego and standing within the Romulan empire. Now, whether or not Kirk gets Carol pregnant remains to be seen. Personally, I do not see that element being introduced, in "this" universe. However, as far as an actual "bad guy" would go ... I wouldn't hazard a guess.
Leaving her on the Enterprise at the end of STID certainly created the option of having her figure in the next movie (pun intended). After all, she's part of the five-year mission, now. Given she was prominent in STID and welcomed into the "family" by Kirk at the end, if she's not in the next story, I'd think her absence would at least have to be explained.

I have to admit, though, that if she's in it, I hope they don't spend a lot of time on her and Kirk building a relationship. They already have the Spock and Uhura relationship to work on, and that's fine on its own. The Enterprise is not the Love Boat, after all.

If she's in it, watch Alice Eve not be available, and they have to recast the part -- . It'll be Saavik all over again!
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Old June 24 2014, 05:58 PM   #40
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The Enterprise is not the Love Boat, after all.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93llove.phtml
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Old June 24 2014, 06:08 PM   #41
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I'm gonna make two bold predictions for Star Trek 3.

There will be...

1. Running.

2. Explosions.
I'll make some even bolder ones:

1. It will make a lot of money.

2. A small, vocal minority will be vociferous in their hatred/dislike of it.

3. No matter how much money it makes, someone will try to come up with a way to call it an unqualified "failure".

4. People will continue to argue past each other as to whether "success" = "quality".
5. Kirk will hang by his fingertips. A bunch.
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Old June 24 2014, 06:57 PM   #42
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I think that Genesis thing will somehow bring Spock back to life...
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Old June 24 2014, 08:14 PM   #43
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The Enterprise is not the Love Boat, after all.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93llove.phtml
Here's the video.
http://donpennington.blogspot.com/20...boat-next.html
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Old June 24 2014, 08:23 PM   #44
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One thing we know for sure, Alice Eve won't be seen in her underwear again
That's a good thing. If it doesn't serve the plot, it doesn't belong - and it definitely didn't serve the plot.
Actually, it served as character development, for Kirk. And not everything in a movie (or a novel, for that matter) has to be in service to the plot.
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Old June 24 2014, 08:31 PM   #45
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The Enterprise is not the Love Boat, after all.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93llove.phtml
Here's the video.
http://donpennington.blogspot.com/20...boat-next.html
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