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View Poll Results: What type of AI character would you want in the next Trek TV series?
Soong-type android 4 21.05%
computer-only AI other than the main ship's computer 4 21.05%
Emergency Medical Hologram EMH 1 5.26%
Humanoid Figure 0 0%
no artificial intelligence character. human or aliens only. 10 52.63%
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Old February 24 2015, 10:23 PM   #1
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android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

I was thinking about an old thread I started
Emergency Medical Hologram in future Trek ?
and what others may want in the next Trek series main characters.

In TNG we had "Data" who was a Soong-type android, the first and only such being to ever enter Starfleet.
In VOY we had a Emergency Medical Hologram EMH "The Doctor"
In ENT we did not have an principle castmember artificial intelligence being character but only the Humanoid Figure as a recurring character.

What type of AI character (if any) would you want in the next Trek TV series as a principle character?
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Old February 24 2015, 11:05 PM   #2
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

No artificial character please it has been done, twice over. Data was awesome, but any homage to him would just be a lesser ripp-off (see the EMH)
I could see a ships AI like Rommie in Andromeda, but then ST would be accused of ripping off Andromeda....
ANd please, if we get an AI character, please don't give him/her/it an desire to understand humanity/become more human.
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Old February 24 2015, 11:24 PM   #3
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

^ Agree completely.

I wouldn't mind an EMH being used in the background during a medical emergency, to show the technology is still in use and developing but no lines and no development. As for other androids, it takes away from Data's uniqueness--besides none of them would be seen as sentient life-forms without undergoing their own trial. Shipboard AI will always be there, but if it is fully aware and complex to run the ship why would it need a crew?

Wouldn't mind someone having cybernetic properties (not Borg), but I'd rather have an interesting alien than an artificial character.
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Old February 25 2015, 04:33 PM   #4
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

As with any character, is the artificial being well conceived, well casted, and can the writers give them an interesting story line and do so on a weekly basis?

I would certainly have nothing against a artifical in the main hero group.

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Old February 25 2015, 05:41 PM   #5
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

Orphalesion wrote: View Post
ANd please, if we get an AI character, please don't give him/her/it an desire to understand humanity/become more human.
Unfortunately I think the producers would ask the writers to explore this in depth to fill with ship-based episodes especially in the 2nd and 3rd seasons when story ideas are slimmer.
Look how many VOY episodes did this with the EMH after TNG did it years earlier. To be honest a major plot point in the 1996 film ST:First Contact was with Data getting human skin grafted to his arm from the Borg Queen and Data's emotion chip. With this new skin, Data is able to feel all new sensations.
The very idea of an emotion chip is writer's making an AI becoming more human as a character for the audience. I would like to _NOT_ see an emotion chip in the next AI android myself.
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Old February 25 2015, 06:14 PM   #6
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jefferiestubes8 wrote: View Post
Look how many VOY episodes did this with the EMH after TNG did it years earlier.
That was my point, hence my aversion to having another artificial character.
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Old February 25 2015, 07:52 PM   #7
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I find human (actual or allegorical) characters more interesting than AIs, although there may be some merit to an AI as part of a cast. Concentrate all the technobabble into the AI so that the acual characters can spend their time doing something interesting.
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Old February 26 2015, 12:04 AM   #8
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I wouldn't mind if there was an android or hologram that was a reoccurring or minor character, but not as a main character.
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Old February 26 2015, 06:25 AM   #9
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

Given AI is becoming increasingly likely, it would be remiss of a Trek show not to deal with it. Perhaps on a more sophisticated level than Pinocchio, though.

I have no idea what relevance "Humanoid figure" has to this thread.
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Old February 27 2015, 12:27 AM   #10
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

Data was unique for his time but I believe he was a glimpse into the future. I'd like to see a Trek with humanoids, aliens, sentient androids, sentient AI and sentient holograms. The previous Treks all hinted at a future where all these forms of life would be commonplace. There's lots of stories to tell with this mix.
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Old February 28 2015, 01:06 AM   #11
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

And what about a Nano-swarm?
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Old March 2 2015, 01:39 AM   #12
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It would be hard to give a nano-swarm a relatable characterisation. Unless you say that the swarm spends most of its time in humanoid form, in which case it you'd just have Odo 2.0.
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Old March 2 2015, 09:53 PM   #13
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How about an Android with multiple people inside of him/her, but instead of fighting to take control, they all get along quite well.
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Old March 4 2015, 04:44 AM   #14
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Re: android, hologram, or other AI in principle cast on next TV series

Though Data is one of my most favorite Star Trek characters, I am ambivalent about having another A.I. character on the next Star Trek series. (Iím okay with having an A.I. character as a guest character but not as a regular character.)

I feel this way, because Iím afraid that the creators of the next show will recycle themes and stories already explored by Data in TNG and use them as a crutch instead of coming up with their own unique characters and fresh stories.

As much as I am fond of Data, I donít need to see other characters that are just Data ver.2 and Data Ver.3 who play out recycled Data stories.
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Old March 4 2015, 09:06 AM   #15
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A horta that wanted to be more Klingon.

I've never liked X wants to learn what it means to human - always comes across as an afternoon school special for slightly slow people.
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