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Old May 26 2014, 07:24 AM   #16
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Re: Spock Prime

I'd be opposed to giving Spock Prime a major storyline in a new movie, especially something as arch as him trying to make contact with the Prime universe. But I'd have no misgivings if he turned up for another short cameo. After all, he has now been established as being a part of this new universe, so if they did something involving New Vulcan or what-not then I'd see no reason why he shouldn't be included as a player in that. It'd be pretty harmless, and would be a nice continuation of the two movies so far.
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Old May 26 2014, 07:34 AM   #17
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Well, whatever he is gonna do, he better do it fast...I agree with the above sentiments that he is not long for this plane of existence...not that he could not be referred to, and backstory/backstorytimelined or what have you...but he will soon shuffle off this mortal coil and go find out if it is all true...and both timelines will be the poorer...
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Old May 26 2014, 03:56 PM   #18
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It is also a brand new timeline/universe that exists on its own. It didn't displace or change any other timeline. Nothing is "wrong" or out of place because of its existence.
We've seen such new timelines more than once in Trek, and the original timeline could always be (more or less) restored.

If Spock could contact Picard in the Prime Universe and told him about Nero and what he is about to do, then Nero could be stopped from going back in time ... and the nuTimeline would cease to exist. The perfect Reset Button!
Except Orci seemed to describe his version of time travel as something different than what we've seen before in Trek. No reset button. What would happen in the above incident would not change anything, but instead create yet another new timeline that goes on from where Nero is stopped. The timeline we see in ST09 and STID would not be affected. On top of that, there is nothing to change in the Prime timeline. Their past is the same, nothing changed when Nero and Spock went through the black hole. This was the creation of something that hadn't existed before, not the changing of something that had existed.

It's in line with how some cosmologists say that if we can go back in time, we still can't go back and do things like prevent the JFK assassination. If it is stopped nothing is "corrected" in the timeline that existed, but a new timeline is created that goes on from where JFK lives. The prime one (the one the person came from) is not affected. The person will live in the new timeline, and if he ever got back to his old one, JFK would still be dead.

I remember a show on time travel some years ago where an astronomer said rather tongue in cheek that if time travel will exist sometime in the future, the best evidence that you can't go back and change a timeline is that we still exist.
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Old May 26 2014, 04:12 PM   #19
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All I want to know is: What kind of a truck does he turn into?
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Old May 27 2014, 03:56 AM   #20
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All I want to know is: What kind of a truck does he turn into?
...um...ok, I'll be the one... "...what kind of truck?..."
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Old May 31 2014, 09:49 PM   #21
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Orci and Kurtzman claimed that TNG: "Parallels" allows the premise of Star Trek 2009 to work. I, however, think that that is a bs explanation since "Parallels" only involves naturally occuring alternate realities. The DTI novel Watching the Clock provides an explanation for the existence of the physics of both "Parallels" and Star Trek 2009.
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Old May 31 2014, 10:15 PM   #22
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Orci and Kurtzman claimed that TNG: "Parallels" allows the premise of Star Trek 2009 to work. I, however, think that that is a bs explanation since "Parallels" only involves naturally occuring alternate realities.
Well, Worf did artificially create about a dozen new alternate realities.
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Old June 1 2014, 11:04 AM   #23
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Orci and Kurtzman claimed that TNG: "Parallels" allows the premise of Star Trek 2009 to work. I, however, think that that is a bs explanation since "Parallels" only involves naturally occuring alternate realities. The DTI novel Watching the Clock provides an explanation for the existence of the physics of both "Parallels" and Star Trek 2009.

"For any event there are an infinite number of possible outcomes."
On Stardate 2233.04, possibility #1 is that nothing much happens and possibility #2 is that a five-mile-long Romulan ship with a seriously PO'd crew appears from the future.

Wrong franchise, but this is also relevant:
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