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Old May 20 2014, 06:54 AM   #16
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Re: The Spiritual Successor of Star Trek

I don't know, even with your latest update to the premise, it sounds less the spiritual successor and more like The Weyland-Yutani Show.

Afterthought: You're proposing "Dallas... IN SPACE!"
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Old May 20 2014, 02:27 PM   #17
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what is Dallas? What is Weyland-Yutani show?
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Old May 20 2014, 03:26 PM   #18
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what is Dallas? What is Weyland-Yutani show?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_(1978_TV_series)

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Weyland-Yutani
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Old May 20 2014, 06:20 PM   #19
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what is Dallas? What is Weyland-Yutani show?
Well, as USS Triumphant indicates, "Dallas" was a long-running serialized show about a family running an oil business, most notably featuring an evil sadistic member of the family known as J. R. Ewing. Perhaps it's known as "Southfork" outside North America.

I find it rather incredible that you intentionally borrow concepts from Alien and Prometheus, yet have no idea what Weyland-Yutani is.
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Old May 20 2014, 07:15 PM   #20
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I think it stayed true to its roots. I think Star Trek can, too, after ST:09 III comes out, if it goes back to TV and works to fix the timeline. Then you have a great story, and the potential to explore anything, especially some damn good writing.
How does reinstating the Prime Universe bring Star Trek back to its roots roots or lead to good writing?
It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."

The idea of calling Doctor Who "Star Trek's big brother" is a peculiar one, and can be based on nothing more than the fact that DW is a couple of years older than Star Trek. It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.
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Old May 21 2014, 02:33 AM   #21
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I always considered seaQuest DSV a spiritual sibling of Star Trek.
As did I.

SeaQuest DSV had exploration and many other aspects of Star Trek. The crew was as easy to relate to as our own.
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Old May 21 2014, 12:19 PM   #22
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what is Dallas? What is Weyland-Yutani show?
Well, as USS Triumphant indicates, "Dallas" was a long-running serialized show about a family running an oil business, most notably featuring an evil sadistic member of the family known as J. R. Ewing. Perhaps it's known as "Southfork" outside North America.

I find it rather incredible that you intentionally borrow concepts from Alien and Prometheus, yet have no idea what Weyland-Yutani is.
Well, just like I said that I just like the ship design and how they portrait the Alien Race there. I'm not a hard fan of Alien franchise. So I don't bother to research their universe. Plus, Weyland-Yutani is not an exploration company. They are a mega corporation with multi business. While my idea is a bit more of a company who focus on space exploration business. It's more of a privateer than a "Dallas" in space.

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Old May 21 2014, 03:47 PM   #23
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It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."
Funny thing about predictions. If you wait enough, they almost always turn out wrong.

I never would have predicted they'd make a movie about Transformers, let alone Battleship, and now they are actually going to do a Jem and the Holograms movie. With dreck like that being developed, and some of it inexplicably becoming huge hits, why discount reviving the prime timeline? It wouldn't probably be produced in a 90s Berman style, but it could be in the same canonical space.

They're even giving Glen Larson big bucks to exec produce a reboot of BSG, and it will probably turn out more like the 70s show than the Moore version. That's something I doubt anyone expected would happen.

Just be ready to eat your words, even though I don't necessarily expect this to happen in the near future.

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It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.
Oh, really?
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Old May 21 2014, 06:08 PM   #24
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It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.
Oh, really?
I don't see anything in that Memory Alpha article that invalidates Dennis' statement.
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Old May 22 2014, 03:27 AM   #25
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It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.
Oh, really?
I don't see anything in that Memory Alpha article that invalidates Dennis' statement.
ST Assignment Earth aired on March 28, 1968. DW Fury From the Deep aired between March 16 and April 20, 1968. It would have to involve time travel for DW to have influences ST.
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Old May 24 2014, 05:25 PM   #26
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It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."
Funny thing about predictions. If you wait enough, they almost always turn out wrong.

I never would have predicted they'd make a movie about Transformers, let alone Battleship, and now they are actually going to do a Jem and the Holograms movie. With dreck like that being developed, and some of it inexplicably becoming huge hits, why discount reviving the prime timeline? It wouldn't probably be produced in a 90s Berman style, but it could be in the same canonical space.

They're even giving Glen Larson big bucks to exec produce a reboot of BSG, and it will probably turn out more like the 70s show than the Moore version. That's something I doubt anyone expected would happen.

Just be ready to eat your words, even though I don't necessarily expect this to happen in the near future.

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It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.
Oh, really?
The question is not about Star Trek will ever come back to TV again. But When it will happen. And the word of "When" in here has no limit. 50 years later? So can you wait for that long? or we should seek alternative? If the studio is allergic to create a new Star Trek series, you can only hope for something new.
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Old June 17 2014, 03:35 PM   #27
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I always considered seaQuest DSV a spiritual sibling of Star Trek.
I always considered StarGate SG-1 to be a spiritual successor to TOS, and SG-Atlantis as TNG's spiritual successor.
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Old June 17 2014, 07:45 PM   #28
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Re: The Spiritual Successor of Star Trek

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It doesn't. They'll never return to the "Prime timeline."
Funny thing about predictions. If you wait enough, they almost always turn out wrong.
Funny thing - one of us will be wrong. I'm comfortable working from here, thanks.

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It's not clear that anyone involved with Trek in the 1960s was even aware of DW's existence.
Oh, really?
Yes, really. Cute, though.

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I always considered seaQuest DSV a spiritual sibling of Star Trek.
I always considered StarGate SG-1 to be a spiritual successor to TOS, and SG-Atlantis as TNG's spiritual successor.
Minus about 25 IQ points.
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Old June 17 2014, 08:52 PM   #29
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and now they are actually going to do a Jem and the Holograms movie.
Truly outrageous! That is terrible news!

I am now going to do something that totally does not involve Googling that project.
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Minus about 25 IQ points.
I'll admit that both TOS and TNG were far more cerebral than the Stargate franchise ever wanted to be, but in terms of that sense of wonder and exploration, Stargate SG-x didn't do too bad. Atlantis could have been so much more, but it wasn't bad if you knew what to expect.
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