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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old May 14 2014, 11:58 PM   #46
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Re: The Neutral Zone, end of the Family unit?

Not ceremonial marriage. That was a direct outgrowth of the people wanting to prevent the government from grabbing up all lands and chattels of landowners that die, so they can be properly passed on to heirs. While wills were recognized, they were far more likely to be accepted if the family could present the government's recognition of the marriage relationship as well. This forced the government to recognize the heirs as legitimate(there's a concept).
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Old May 15 2014, 03:36 AM   #47
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Re: The Neutral Zone, end of the Family unit?

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until certain religious leaders realized they could make money .
Oh please.

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I believe that marriage pre-dates government by several thousand years.
Religion also predates government, certainly government outside of the immediate vicinity of a given city state.



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Old May 15 2014, 07:13 AM   #48
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Re: The Neutral Zone, end of the Family unit?

T'Girl, this has been documented by historians far better informed about it than I. Doubting me just because I'm not citing long, boring science texts is disingenuous.
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Old May 15 2014, 12:18 PM   #49
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Re: The Neutral Zone, end of the Family unit?

Marriage, at its heart, is a verbal contract between two people to wish to join their lives together. For thousands of years (nobility and wealthy families aside) if two people said that they were married - they were. As long as they had said the vows to each other (specific vows varied from culture to culture of course) then that was enough - witnesses would not even be required unless there was an objection to the union (that one half was already married, for instance!). This is where legal issues and governments got involved, so if in doubt a couple of witnesses to the vow would often be handy.

Over time of course, the process became more legislated to the point where it is today. What form it may take in the 24th Century I do not know!
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Old May 18 2014, 10:01 AM   #50
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Don't most countries, including the United States, only require a legal, not religious marriage
The opposite occurs as well, people will have a religious marriage without having it recognized by the state. Most people get the government paperwork too.

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