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Old May 14 2014, 08:50 AM   #46
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Paging NX-01/Akira debate...
Ohhhh, shit...
IMO, they look no more alike than the Constitution and Ambassador classes do.
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Old May 14 2014, 01:53 PM   #47
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^Love the avatar
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Old May 14 2014, 02:21 PM   #48
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Paging NX-01/Akira debate...
Ohhhh, shit...
IMO, they look no more alike than the Constitution and Ambassador classes do.
It's a matter of record that the producers wanted NX-01 to be based on the Akira, for no reason I can comprehend. But to me, they're extremely different variations on the theme, no more resembling each other than a thoroughbred racehorse resembles a hippo. (NX-01 being the thoroughbred in this instance.)
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Old May 14 2014, 05:14 PM   #49
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IMO, the NX-01 more resembles the fan-designed Akyazi class perimeter action ships than it does the Akira.

Here's a pic: http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...ion_akyazi.jpg

If you look up the specs, the NX and Akyazi classes are even the same approximate size and carry similar numbers of crew-folk.
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Old May 14 2014, 05:42 PM   #50
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^Actually that reminds me more of the Intrepid type (like the Pioneer in Rise of the Federation), what with the half-saucer design.
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Old May 14 2014, 08:31 PM   #51
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It's a matter of record that the producers wanted NX-01 to be based on the Akira, for no reason I can comprehend. But to me, they're extremely different variations on the theme, no more resembling each other than a thoroughbred racehorse resembles a hippo. (NX-01 being the thoroughbred in this instance.)
Actually, it was confirmed by Doug Drexler that the producers originally wanted the NX-01 to be the Akira class ship. Apparently they thought that the ship, just being in the background in FC and DS9, wouldn't have been recognizable by their obviously moronic and not-nitpicky-at-all viewers, never mind that the design looked like post-TNG anyway. Doug of course knew this was ridiculous, so he took it upon himself to make changes to the design to make it look more like something from the 22nd century. That's why the ship looks so much like the Akira.
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Old May 14 2014, 08:58 PM   #52
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^I know, but I didn't want to go into that.
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Old May 14 2014, 09:12 PM   #53
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Since Doug posted that info freely on his public blog, I figured it was fine to repost here.
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Old May 14 2014, 09:46 PM   #54
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Not saying it was secret, just not relevant to the point I wanted to make.
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Not saying it was secret, just not relevant to the point I wanted to make.
How very dishonest of you.
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...oh for the love of ______!!!
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Old May 15 2014, 03:03 AM   #57
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Apparently they thought that the ship, just being in the background in FC and DS9, wouldn't have been recognizable by their obviously moronic and not-nitpicky-at-all viewers,
I've never understood the belief that the Akira is "just a background ship." For a ship that's not a lead ship, it's pretty prominent even before the design got usurped into the NX-01's. It's an Akira which flies by the exploding Borg cube in First Contact, which is one of the movie's signature shots. Akira class ships are displayed quite prominently on screen in a number of DS9 episodes and even a Voyager episode. It was even on the front of the box for the old Dominion War video game.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, and I do know you're just reporting an established fact. This is just something that irritates me. The Norway class is a background ship. The Sabre class is a background ship. The Akira is not.
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Old May 15 2014, 05:15 AM   #58
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Apparently they thought that the ship, just being in the background in FC and DS9, wouldn't have been recognizable by their obviously moronic and not-nitpicky-at-all viewers,
I've never understood the belief that the Akira is "just a background ship." For a ship that's not a lead ship, it's pretty prominent even before the design got usurped into the NX-01's. It's an Akira which flies by the exploding Borg cube in First Contact, which is one of the movie's signature shots. Akira class ships are displayed quite prominently on screen in a number of DS9 episodes and even a Voyager episode. It was even on the front of the box for the old Dominion War video game.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant, and I do know you're just reporting an established fact. This is just something that irritates me. The Norway class is a background ship. The Sabre class is a background ship. The Akira is not.
Yes, I completely agree with you. But I was stating what the producers of ENT believed, not what the fanbase knew. Keep in mind that these were the same people who wanted a rock band of-the-week on the ship in a pathetic effort to boost ratings with tween viewership, since their just-as-pathetic soft porn decon gel scenes weren't attracting the creepy pervert male viewership.
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Old May 15 2014, 01:45 PM   #59
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^IIRC, it wasn't the producers of the show who wanted the rock bands, it was the executives of the network. Those are two separate, often adversarial groups.
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Old May 15 2014, 02:32 PM   #60
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Huh, this is the first I've heard about shipboard rock bands. That just sounds terrible, so glad that idea never went anywhere.
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