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Old May 10 2014, 08:43 PM   #31
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Re: Classic Mission: Impossible and 1988 Sequel Series...

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Fair enough, then let's say UNCLE fell into the bad camp camp. The ep that made me stop was the same one that Vaughn quotes when disparaging the season. It involved Africa, a cliche jungle girl, a guy in a gorilla suit, and a scene where Napoleon danced the Watusi with the gorilla in a tree house. Probably the lowest low in the series, IMHO.
No, the real low was the episode where Ilya is riding a stink bomb between his legs, trying to stop it from hitting Las Vegas!
For me, one of the show's low points was "The Hot Number Affair," with guest stars Sonny and Cher. Set in New York's garment district, the plot was something about a secret THRUSH code hidden in the pattern on a dress. Cher played a model and Sonny played a dork.
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Old May 11 2014, 01:09 AM   #32
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The TB&TB episode "The Mask of Matches Malone!" had a song that was so laden with sexual innuendoes that Cartoon Network refused to air it.

Ah, love walksout the door when money comes innuendo .

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Indeed, it's odd to endorse B:TB&TB and dismiss Batman '66 in the same sentence, although TB&TB is a more affectionate tribute while '66 was more mocking.
It's also the only depiction of Aquaman that was in any way cool.
B:TB&TB wasn't half as camp as Batman '66 was, and was more of an adventure that combined the 50's TB&TB book with elements of Justice League and Justice League Unlimited and a little schmaltz; it didn't go full-hog into parody like Batman '66 did. I'd show that (and The Batman) to any kids I had over anything like Batman '66 (and I'd also include Teen Titans, Green Lantern: TAS and Young Justice, as well as Beware The Batman-heck; I'd show them the Nolanverse Batman movies too.)

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Old May 11 2014, 01:21 AM   #33
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Christopher, I'm pretty sure season 2 is on DVD, if you want to go that route.
It is, but I don't have a lot of discretionary income to throw around, and I'm not sure I'll like season 2 enough to want to own it. If I were getting paid to do my blog reviews, that would be another matter, of course, but since it's just for recreation, I'm not that determined.
Christopher, over the years I have enjoyed reading your insightful reviews of the original show so much, that I would love to support your reviewing of the 1988 revival show. If you are willing to PM me your Pay Pal information, it would be my pleasure to send you the money for the second season.
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Old May 11 2014, 03:16 AM   #34
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I appreciate the offer very much! Just click my homepage link in my signature and there's a PayPal donation button right at the top.
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Old May 11 2014, 03:47 AM   #35
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Ah, love walksout the door when money comes innuendo .

I JUST watched Monkey Business tonight. I heard Groucho deliver that line not an hour ago!

Cosmic.
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Old May 11 2014, 03:49 AM   #36
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Fair enough, then let's say UNCLE fell into the bad camp camp. The ep that made me stop was the same one that Vaughn quotes when disparaging the season. It involved Africa, a cliche jungle girl, a guy in a gorilla suit, and a scene where Napoleon danced the Watusi with the gorilla in a tree house. Probably the lowest low in the series, IMHO.
No, the real low was the episode where Ilya is riding a stink bomb between his legs, trying to stop it from hitting Las Vegas!
For me, one of the show's low points was "The Hot Number Affair," with guest stars Sonny and Cher. Set in New York's garment district, the plot was something about a secret THRUSH code hidden in the pattern on a dress. Cher played a model and Sonny played a dork.
Oh God yes. And every time they appeared on screen, "The Beat Goes On" came up in the background. Every. Single. Time.

(and for a second there I swore you typed "New York's Garamet district"!)
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Old May 11 2014, 04:05 AM   #37
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wwowiewow wow!!!...I have said it before, and I will say it again, it is really cool to be a part of such an interesting and knowledgeable Board...to all of the above, and more. thank you!...I had forgotten more than I had rememebered about Mish and Five Oh...the one thing that I did remember and that still makes me smile, is that Jack Lord could easily have been James T. Kirk...he wanted a piece, and Roddenberry would not give...wonder how that would have gone...
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Old May 11 2014, 05:05 AM   #38
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I couldn't really see Jack Lord as Captain Kirk, not with the level of control he would have wanted over the show. (Lord became a very hands-on executive producer of Five-O following creator Leonard Freeman's death in 1974.) In particular, I can't see Lord, who was 99% of the time the center of Five-O, willingly allowing story focus to be given to a popular second-billed character like Spock.
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Old May 11 2014, 05:51 AM   #39
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I couldn't really see Jack Lord as Captain Kirk, not with the level of control he would have wanted over the show. (Lord became a very hands-on executive producer of Five-O following creator Leonard Freeman's death in 1974.) In particular, I can't see Lord, who was 99% of the time the center of Five-O, willingly allowing story focus to be given to a popular second-billed character like Spock.
I've lost a ton of respect for Lord over the years due to that kind of prima donna bullshit behavior he pulled, and this article tells why: Jack Lord, Superstar

It was a great thing he never became Captain Kirk, because the dynamics of TOS would have been disrupted beyond what Shatner did, in addition to all of the crap that was going on production-wise on the show.

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Old May 11 2014, 06:24 AM   #40
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. . . (and for a second there I swore you typed "New York's Garamet district"!)
I assume you're referring to this character? Never heard of her before.
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Old May 11 2014, 10:17 AM   #41
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The biggest perpetrator of yellowface was Hawaii 5-0. Marc Leonard as a Japanese spy, Ricardo Montalban as a Japanese crime lord, various Italian-America actors as native Hawaiians. They did hire local Hawaiians, and plenty of Asian actors in secondary roles, but (at least in the first few seasons), they usually cast a non-Asian Hollywood actor to play the Asian lead. And some of the eye makeup was downright laughable.
That's the kind of thing that makes younger people (especially younger people of color) not want to watch shows as old as these, and why many younger people of color (Asians in particular) are pissed off at the industry for not having more diversity on TV. This recent video did a humorous take on it:



This is also why the current series, IMHO, is better.

Christopher, the 3rd season of Man From UNCLE made me stop my rewatch for several months. It's roughly the same dramatic quality as the 60s Batman show. It even had similar music by Nelson Riddle himself! pretty much unbearable. Even Robert Vaughn reviled it in the DVD extras. They tried to pull it back and be serious in season 4, with some reasonable results. But it never had the heart season one had.
You watched that crappy season? I warned Christopher about it myself a while back. When I rented the shows from a local store in Toronto, I only saw seasons 1, 2 and 4; I'd read Jon Heitland's book about the show beforehand, and remembered how crappy that season was (and The Girl From U.N.C.L.E.), and so I acted accordingly. I might download the 3rd season episodes from Bittorrent, but that's it (the only good one is the one about a presidential candidate and his wife probably being a THRUSH agent.)
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Old May 11 2014, 02:19 PM   #42
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. . . (and for a second there I swore you typed "New York's Garamet district"!)
I assume you're referring to this character? Never heard of her before.
No, I refer to fellow bboard member and Trek author Margaret Wander Bonano, who posts here under to screen name Garamet.
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Old May 11 2014, 08:42 PM   #43
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I appreciate the offer very much! Just click my homepage link in my signature and there's a PayPal donation button right at the top.
Thank you. I just used it. I'm looking forward to more M:I reviews from you. Thanks for the hard work!
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Old May 11 2014, 09:03 PM   #44
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Thanks so much!
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Old May 12 2014, 02:26 PM   #45
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Watched a Girl From UNCLE yesterday just 'cause the thread reminded me. I'm on the first disk of season 2. I wouldn't say it was as bad as Man got in the 3rd season, but it's definitely in the camp camp. Tolerance depends on how much you like looking at Stephanie Powers in groovy 60s fashions. I can take it.
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