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Old April 28 2014, 04:09 AM   #1
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The Borg Children?

Would it have been a good idea to turn one of them into a major villain? Icheb would have been cool for that. Manu could have pulled off a dark/scary character well IMO.
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Old April 28 2014, 04:49 AM   #2
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it's an idea at that...they had knowledge and perspective that would have served the Borg well...
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Old April 28 2014, 05:50 AM   #3
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They shouldn't have killed off that angry Borg kid where they first found them. He could have provided some hijinks for a couple of episodes until Seven bitch-slapped him.
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Old April 28 2014, 05:56 AM   #4
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Re: The Borg Children?

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They shouldn't have killed off that angry Borg kid where they first found them. He could have provided some hijinks for a couple of episodes until Seven bitch-slapped him.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a WINNER!
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Old April 28 2014, 06:01 AM   #5
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They shouldn't have killed off that angry Borg kid where they first found them. He could have provided some hijinks for a couple of episodes until Seven bitch-slapped him.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a WINNER!
Oooooo...and when do we start training for THAT?!?!?!?!?!....
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Old April 28 2014, 06:16 AM   #6
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Re: The Borg Children?

What does one angry Borg do without a collective to do it with? OH I guess the big push would be to find anyone to collectivize with. I can't see them plotting and scheming as solo villains very well, especially when freshly unplugged.
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Old April 28 2014, 06:18 AM   #7
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Re: The Borg Children?

The Doctor needed Borg Drones for his external mobility.

If he truly was alive for real, then a couple hours in Seven of Nine's body that time can't have been enough.

While they were sleeping, it's obvious that he joy rode all the drones on Voyager and no one was any the wiser.

The Perfect crime.

Actually how can we be completely sure that we were ever again dealing with Anika ever again after Body and Soul?
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Old April 28 2014, 06:28 AM   #8
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What does one angry Borg do without a collective to do it with? OH I guess the big push would be to find anyone to collectivize with. I can't see them plotting and scheming as solo villains very well, especially when freshly unplugged.
They still have Borg perfection! Of all of them Icheb could be hero or villain, like Seven. There is alot of angst there.
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Old April 28 2014, 06:28 AM   #9
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Actually how can we be completely sure that we were ever again dealing with Anika ever again after Body and Soul?

Because she wasn't stuffing her face and masturbating constantly?
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Old April 28 2014, 06:31 AM   #10
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What does one angry Borg do without a collective to do it with? OH I guess the big push would be to find anyone to collectivize with. I can't see them plotting and scheming as solo villains very well, especially when freshly unplugged.
They still have Borg perfection! Of all of them Icheb could be hero or villain, like Seven. There is alot of angst there.
I thought Icheb was a great character, tragic backstory. I could see him turning villain after getting rejected by a woman, rebuffed on the assimilation front. Remembers that he is Borg and the Borg don't have niceties and etiquette cluttering up their goals.
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Old April 28 2014, 07:03 AM   #11
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They already had villains among them. The "twins" were deadly boring.

I wish they'd just got rid of them and kept Mezoti. Naomi needed a friend her own age.
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Old April 28 2014, 07:06 AM   #12
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Actually how can we be completely sure that we were ever again dealing with Anika ever again after Body and Soul?

Because she wasn't stuffing her face and masturbating constantly?

Oh, my...please god when do we start training for THAT!?!?!
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Old April 28 2014, 07:11 AM   #13
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Shattered seemed to pair him off with an all grown up Naomi.

Imperfection seemed to pair him off with Seven of Nine.

Nightingale had him reject B'Elanna as his dirty secret lover.

Al's good, alriiii, al'riii, alriii.
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Old April 28 2014, 07:30 AM   #14
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Re: The Borg Children?

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What does one angry Borg do without a collective to do it with? OH I guess the big push would be to find anyone to collectivize with. I can't see them plotting and scheming as solo villains very well, especially when freshly unplugged.
They still have Borg perfection! Of all of them Icheb could be hero or villain, like Seven. There is alot of angst there.
If First (Angry Borg Kid, played by Ryan Spahn) had survived "Collective", he could have been a counterpoint to Icheb's adapting to Voyager.

Seven has become part of Voyager's family/collective. She will introduce Icheb to that collective, but in a different type of assimilation. She could have done the same with First, but he was an anarchist.

It gets into Prisoner territory now, if we think of First as Number 6. The village of Voyager wants him to conform, but he resists as much as he can. The EMH can't prescribe anything, meetings with Number 2 (Janeway) don't help, lectures from Seven help less, and he keeps trying to escape. He's not as smart as Number 6 though, so he can't play any mindgames on them. Eventually Seven has to take him out.

Chakotay gets stuck in some stupid subplot with Neelix so that we don't wonder about the first officer being Number One when he's really Number Nothing.
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Old April 28 2014, 07:41 AM   #15
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...the EMH could offer an analgesic cream...but...

no...

...but, Melakon, what of Hugh?...surely he could be re-included...he must still be out there somewhere...ship smashed, computers...no, that is not right...um...well...he must be!
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