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Old May 4 2014, 07:03 AM   #31
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Re: Your ideal New Trek Series

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Bry, sorry about the lack of aliens but as this is an Earth ship I was going for a primarily Earth crew. Although I did try to pick some nationalities that we hadn't really seen on Trek before, or at least had seen little of. Canadian, Italian, Egyptian, Brazilian, German, and Irish.
Don't get me wrong, I like the representation of other nationalities, but in a universe where there can be such varied and diverse alien life-form through which to examine the "human condition" and look at things from a whole different perspective, I find that a far more interesting insight.

Besides the last time we had an "Earth ship" it was cancelled after four years
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Old May 4 2014, 10:33 AM   #32
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Old May 4 2014, 12:21 PM   #33
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Old May 4 2014, 12:28 PM   #34
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Re: Your ideal New Trek Series

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Bry, sorry about the lack of aliens but as this is an Earth ship I was going for a primarily Earth crew. Although I did try to pick some nationalities that we hadn't really seen on Trek before, or at least had seen little of. Canadian, Italian, Egyptian, Brazilian, German, and Irish.
Don't get me wrong, I like the representation of other nationalities, but in a universe where there can be such varied and diverse alien life-form through which to examine the "human condition" and look at things from a whole different perspective, I find that a far more interesting insight.
Fair enough.

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Besides the last time we had an "Earth ship" it was cancelled after four years
I contend that, that was due to a poor production, lazy writing, weak casting, and a generally bad execution of the idea, rather than a weakness in the premise itself. But you're fully entitled to feel differently about it.
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Old May 4 2014, 02:22 PM   #35
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Bry, sorry about the lack of aliens but as this is an Earth ship I was going for a primarily Earth crew. Although I did try to pick some nationalities that we hadn't really seen on Trek before, or at least had seen little of. Canadian, Italian, Egyptian, Brazilian, German, and Irish.
Don't get me wrong, I like the representation of other nationalities, but in a universe where there can be such varied and diverse alien life-form through which to examine the "human condition" and look at things from a whole different perspective, I find that a far more interesting insight.
Fair enough.

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Besides the last time we had an "Earth ship" it was cancelled after four years
I contend that, that was due to a poor production, lazy writing, weak casting, and a generally bad execution of the idea, rather than a weakness in the premise itself. But you're fully entitled to feel differently about it.
I agree that the answer isn't to have a bunch of alien crew members. If you want to have a series that explores the human condition, you should do it through humanity being heavily represented. One, maybe two non-human characters are good, but we don't need a bunch.
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Old May 4 2014, 04:52 PM   #36
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Re: Your ideal New Trek Series

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Besides the last time we had an "Earth ship" it was cancelled after four years
I contend that, that was due to a poor production, lazy writing, weak casting, and a generally bad execution of the idea, rather than a weakness in the premise itself. But you're fully entitled to feel differently about it.
I don't dispute any of those points (it was badly written, terribly cast, and poorly executed), but the premise itself was weak to begin with. A ship full of humans could easily be Stargate or any other sci-fi series. If it'd been based on one of the first Federation ships post-Romulan War it would've been a far more dynamic show.

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I agree that the answer isn't to have a bunch of alien crew members. If you want to have a series that explores the human condition, you should do it through humanity being heavily represented. One, maybe two non-human characters are good, but we don't need a bunch.
Of all the Trek series' DS9 had by far, IMHO, the most interesting character, only a small percentage of which (main and recurring) were humans, which gave the show much greater depth than any of the others.

Then just look at the likes of FarScape, which had only one human and did far more interesting and sometimes risky stories than VOY or ENT, whilst still being very human at its core--given that the focus was on and from Crichton.
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Old May 4 2014, 06:50 PM   #37
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I think Vger23 and Duncan Macleod's ideas both have something to recommend them... but then I'm already on record as favoring a concept reboot much like Vger23's idea pushed into the far future like Duncan's idea, so I would.
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Old May 4 2014, 07:52 PM   #38
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With today's current TV trends, I really believe the Vanguard series would make the ideal next Trek series. TV series back on epic novel lines are hot right now, and the tight nature of the storyline would fit the trend to shorter seasons. Each book would correspond to a season, with about 10-12 episodes each. You could even release them all at once, Netflix-style. The Trek meets West Wing meets Lost feel to Vanguard, with the depth and complexity of character and storylines (without being too dark) would really capture the modern viewers attention, I think.

I can't get this teaser trailer out of my head - The camera starts from high above, in an otherwise dark cabaret stage, a lone female figure is playing "Rhapsody in Blue" at a spotlighted piano. Next shot starts at the foot of the piano, close up, and slowly pans out, eventually revealing the player wearing the classic red TOS minidress. The last thing we see before the camera snaps to black is the fact that player has pointed ears. Then the Vanguard logo flashes up on the screen as the jazz music fades out....

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Old May 5 2014, 01:44 AM   #39
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From you I expect no less.
Oh, yeah? Well ... I'll have you know, sir, that an ex-girlfriend of mine once likened me to ... ambrosia.

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Old May 5 2014, 09:23 AM   #40
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the Vanguard series
Another space station show?


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Old May 7 2014, 04:35 AM   #41
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ENT was a missed oppertunity, the decision to make the captain a innocent stumbling fool was a mistake. A few of the character were fine in isolation, but the crew never "meshed."

While not disregarding what happen in ENT, have another go at a pre-TOS series.

I always thought the Romulan War would be a good setting for a show or movie. I actually had thought at one time Future Guy was actually a future Romulan trying to change the course of history.

I'd set a TV show almost exactly where ENT left off (Demons and Terra Prime), but with a different ship and crew (Daedalus-class anybody?).

It would showcase the events leading up to the war with the Romulans, but also explore more prequel aspects that lead into TOS and even the TNG-era.

And it would be on Netflix or Amazon or Hulu, just so it can actually thrive without network involvement.

And Han shoots first.
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Old May 7 2014, 07:41 AM   #42
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I always thought the Romulan War would be a good setting for a show or movie. I actually had thought at one time Future Guy was actually a future Romulan trying to change the course of history.
Seeing as how the PTB didn't know who Future Guy was, that's as good an explanation as any

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I'd set a TV show almost exactly where ENT left off (Demons and Terra Prime), but with a different ship and crew (Daedalus-class anybody?).

It would showcase the events leading up to the war with the Romulans, but also explore more prequel aspects that lead into TOS and even the TNG-era.
ENT should've been on a Daedalus-Class ship from the very start.

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And Han shoots first.
Of course he does, a scoundrel like him doesn't live as long as he has without knowing when to shoot first and walk away calmly without asking any questions.
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Old May 7 2014, 06:45 PM   #43
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Take the NCC-1701-A series starship, call it something other than Enterprise, put a new crew on it, and have lots of planet of the week stories with an occasional story-arc thrown in.
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Old May 8 2014, 03:54 PM   #44
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You all have some good ideas. I just think that CBS or another network that buys the rights is going to do some sort of reboot or reimagining. Everything today is about brand recognition and I think the creators of a new series will be pressured to draw upon either TOS of TNG, the two Star Trek series that have had the most cultural impact and recognition. Something entirely new will be considered too risky.
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Old May 8 2014, 11:29 PM   #45
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Female android captain, male holographic science officer that is followed around by an orb that projects him but also offers advice and a Borg doctor. Maybe a Klingon counselor.
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