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Old March 14 2015, 12:31 PM   #1
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Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

Television has undeniably changed a lot in the last few years, in content and audience - what current/recent series do you think producers of the inevitable new Trek show should look for as inspiration?
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Old March 14 2015, 02:25 PM   #2
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Re: Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

Without being a fanboi I think it would be useful if they took a another look at DS9. What I like most is that it managed to do Trek with both a long story arc and excellent stand alone episodes.

I hope they will look at Breaking Bad. What I like most about Breaking Bad are 2 things. Firstly the writers and director managed to add plenty of exciting "movie moments" With that I mean moments of which the viewer says "DID THAT JUST HAPPEN???!!??". And secondly the music was great in all of Breaking Bad.

Also I hope they add some weird shit to a new star trek show. I'm talking about the twilight zone. Or possibly like they do it in The Leftovers (cults doing un-human weird stuff).

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Old March 14 2015, 03:28 PM   #3
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Re: Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

The revived Doctor Who, obviously. More than anything else, Trek lacks audacity and humor. Without that kind of energy another Trek series will fail.
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Old March 14 2015, 06:51 PM   #4
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Re: Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

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The revived Doctor Who, obviously. More than anything else, Trek lacks audacity and humor. Without that kind of energy another Trek series will fail.
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Old March 14 2015, 11:15 PM   #5
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Re: Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

Yep, Trek, and I mean all incarnations of it, often was a bit too "sober" for its own good.

I'd also find it good if they look at Game of Thrones. Not necessarily because of the sex and violence, but for cues how to adapt a large and varied cast into a TV show.
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Old March 15 2015, 12:33 AM   #6
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Re: Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

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The revived Doctor Who, obviously. More than anything else, Trek lacks audacity and humor.
-1 yes minus one

Respectfully, the Doctor is fun but he has too much fun. Please nothing timey wimey...

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Old March 15 2015, 05:54 AM   #7
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Re: Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

I don't think the idea was to turn Star Trek into a zany time travel show. Just that Star Trek could profit from adopting a more lighthearted mood every now and then.
Perhaps Firefly might be a better example?
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Old March 15 2015, 12:05 PM   #8
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I don't mind lighthearted scenes, like in the NuTrek movies, or TOS, but if Matt Smith gets cast as starfleet captain I will start to worry
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Old March 15 2015, 06:02 PM   #9
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^ Oh god heaven's no! To me that arseface and his infantile howler monkey incarnation of the Doctor represent the worst of Dr. Who.
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Old March 15 2015, 08:45 PM   #10
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Re: Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?

A commanding officer like SG1's Jack O'Neill, he viewed the world in a whimsical way, but could be deadly serious when the occasion called for it.

Make the show more character drive, instead of event driven. Have the problem of the week exist, but not constantly in the foreground.

Allow the characters to change over time, I know this is a risk in that they might charge into someone the audience doesn't like. If you look at most of the previous characters, while we find out more about them, they are essentially the same people in the pilot as in the last episode.

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Old March 15 2015, 10:44 PM   #11
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A commanding officer like SG1's Jack O'Neill, he viewed the world in a whimsical way, but could be deadly serious when the occasion called for it.
I'd rather they didn't. Of all the Stargate colonel's he's my least favourite. I'd rather a Mal Reynolds-style sense of humour.

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Make the show more character drive, instead of event driven. Have the problem of the week exist, but not constantly in the foreground.

Allow the characters to change over time, I know this is a risk in that they might charge into someone the audience doesn't like. If you look at most of the previous characters, while we find out more about them, they are essentially the same people in the pilot as in the last episode.

This is what should be at the core of any new series
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Old March 15 2015, 10:55 PM   #12
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-1 yes minus one
+1 (does that take it back to zero?)

I would have them look at character more, ongoing storytelling, better dialogue and writing and more naturalistic acting. Humour isn't a major issue as that simply comes from better characters and writing. I despair of the whacky, eccentricities of the zany doctor not to mention the fact that there is NO threat in doctor who whatsoever (this also needs to be addressed in any new Star Trek show)
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Old March 15 2015, 11:09 PM   #13
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I'd rather they didn't. Of all the Stargate colonel's he's my least favourite. I'd rather a Mal Reynolds-style sense of humour.

Oh man agreed. But yes, in my eyes Star Trek should take a leaf from Doctor Who and Frefly how to inject a bit of lightheartedness into their stories. Firefly and Game of Thrones on how to really bring a large and varied cast of characters to life and how to create interesting, character-driven stories that still have an epic feel to it.
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Old March 16 2015, 03:56 AM   #14
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I want a crossover with Lexx.


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Old March 16 2015, 06:54 AM   #15
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Lexx had some creative ideas, they were just thoroughly unpleasant and revolting, but creative nonetheless.
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