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Old August 26 2014, 06:06 AM   #31
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Re: UESPA Announces the Launch of Earth's First Warp Ship

Why do I look at this space vessel, in landing mode, and keep thinking of the Eagles and deep space probe ships from SPACE: 1999? Maybe that was the intent back in the '90s. It would be interesting if, like the Eagles and probes, the Valiant had a modular quality to it with the bulk of the ship's larger hull retaining the capability to "drop away" from underneath and make planetfall independently, while the rest of the ship with the engines could remain high above in orbit. It would also be neat if the forward section ("command module") could also separate and perform limited near-space operations as well.
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Old August 26 2014, 03:51 PM   #32
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So, I know I don't post here nearly as often as I used to, but I have been lurking and following this thread for some time, and wanted to pop in for a couple of reasons. First, I wanted to say that I absolutely love the direction you're going with this model. Really beautiful.

Second, I had a possible suggestion regarding the "nacelle struts". I also agree that, though they are clearly consistent with the original model, they do look a bit "fragile" to me, and even a little less substantial than in the images of the original model. However, in looking at the overall design and the low-res model shown in post #25 above, it occurred to me that there might be a way to "beef up" the look of the struts without adding a lot of visual bulk. Again, understanding that the images are very low res, and that you have already reproduced what is probably the actual construction of the struts; but another possible interpretation is that the struts might actually be composed of two elements: there might be a sort of "scaffold-like" structure surrounding a more solid inner core (plasma conduit?) "Scaffold" is probably the wrong word, but I hope it conveys the right image; in my mind I see a structure like the Epsilon 9 station in TMP, in miniature. This might add a visual appearance of further strength without making them look too heavy. It would also be visually and stylistically consistent with the somewhat similar structures you have designed to support the aft engine elements, as well as on the warp nacelles themselves.

While it does look as if the struts on the original model are most likely solid, as you have interpreted them, it also looks to me as if the detail that was added might just have been intended to mimic or suggest a structure such as I am referring to.

Just a few thoughts from a novice non-artist, but "starship pr0n junkie." Take it for what it may be worth. Regardless, I will look forward to following your continued progress on this model. Qapla'
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Old August 28 2014, 04:44 PM   #33
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Re: UESPA Announces the Launch of Earth's First Warp Ship

That is one beautiful looking model. And the working landing gear is just the icing on the cake!
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Old August 28 2014, 05:01 PM   #34
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do the nacelles retract? because they look like they could be brought in and parked along the hull for atmospheric flight and deployed in space for FTL flight.
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Old August 30 2014, 09:26 AM   #35
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Re: UESPA Announces the Launch of Earth's First Warp Ship

Thanks for the great comments.

Wingsley: Actually the command module is designed to separate and operate as an independent vehicle.MY thoughts is that it a sort of predecessor to the enviropod on my S.S. Enterprise ringship in that can function as a lifeboat in case of emergencies.

TrekkieMonster: I've actually had a similar thought about the "scaffold." I may keep the outer box structure but make the inner surface more pipe-like. My thoughts are that the center structure of the pylon could be built of something like this: http://www.isotruss.info/

BK613: Yes, the nacelles will retract for atmospheric flight.


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Old August 30 2014, 05:06 PM   #36
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That's super awesome. I love what you're doing with this old ship.

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Old August 31 2014, 04:36 AM   #37
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Great work!!! I can not wait to see more and also interesting idea about the retractable nacelles.
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Old September 1 2014, 09:17 AM   #38
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Trying to come up with a more battered look for a scene with the Valiant getting swept into the great barrier.



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Old September 11 2014, 11:13 PM   #39
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I haven't been able to get much work done on her. School and work are keeping me plenty busy.



I have an "overheated engine" texture on the engines right now. I want to use this for when the ship is trying to escape the magnetic storm.
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Old September 13 2014, 10:47 PM   #40
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Very nice.
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