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Old April 23 2014, 02:47 AM   #46
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Re: ‘Star Trek 3′: Roberto Orci Wants to Direct

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I don't know, while I agree about a first time Director taking on such a big budget, high profile project, if J.J. has confidence in him, maybe he's up to the challenge.
Note the TrekToday headline that went up a little while ago:

http://www.trektoday.com/content/201...-orci-go-solo/

Apparently both Orci and Kurtzman are pursuing independent directing and producing careers in film, though they'll continue to collaborate on TV productions. Kurtzman's already been picked to direct the Venom spinoff from the Amazing Spider-Man franchise, and he has only one prior movie directing credit, a Chris Pine film called People Like Us.
Then it should be very interesting if Orci gets the Director's chair.
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Old April 23 2014, 03:46 AM   #47
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I welcome this if it happens.
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Old April 23 2014, 05:13 AM   #48
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at people who get wrapped up in others politics.
Apart from helping to explain his tendency toward thin-skinned Internet tough-guy antics I personally would say Orci's politics are the least of his sins as a screenwriter. (And that STID's script isn't coherent enough to support the charge that it's peddling Trutherism.)

But I can fully understand why some people are turned off by that sort of thing, just as I can understand why Tom Cruise's persistent association with the highly-suspect Scientology brand has damaged him for some audience members. Choices like that can affect how people see you, that's part of life.
I'm mostly turned off because I feel that spreading lies like "the government was behind 9/11" is an insult to those who lost their lives and/or suffered from the event. That's just my opinion.
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Old April 23 2014, 01:46 PM   #49
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It is a huge commitment. I don´t know if Orci have gained some practical knowledge in this area.

If Leonard Nimoy did not suffer chronic ill health, he would be ideal to direct ST 3. He is a great expert in Star Trek.
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Old April 23 2014, 02:35 PM   #50
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Karl Urban said they had already chosen the director. I wonder if they didn´t reach an agreement.
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Old April 23 2014, 02:45 PM   #51
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The pluses as I see them are that as one of the writers, he'd certainly have a vision for the movie; he knows Trek very well; he knows the cast and production people, which can't hurt; he has a relationship with Abrams; his ego is unlikely to clash with Abrams's, as could happen if someone with a reputation equal to Abrams as a director came in to direct.

I'm sure Paramount would be nervous and reluctant as hell to give the director's chair to a first-timer, though. To that end, I bet it would take quite a vote of confidence and some lobbying from Orci's peers, especially Abrams, to see it happen. If they'd be comfortable enough with the idea to do that, then who am I to say it wouldn't work? They know Orci. I don't.
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Old April 23 2014, 05:50 PM   #52
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Re: ‘Star Trek 3′: Roberto Orci Wants to Direct

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at people who get wrapped up in others politics.
Apart from helping to explain his tendency toward thin-skinned Internet tough-guy antics I personally would say Orci's politics are the least of his sins as a screenwriter. (And that STID's script isn't coherent enough to support the charge that it's peddling Trutherism.)

But I can fully understand why some people are turned off by that sort of thing, just as I can understand why Tom Cruise's persistent association with the highly-suspect Scientology brand has damaged him for some audience members. Choices like that can affect how people see you, that's part of life.
I'm mostly turned off because I feel that spreading lies like "the government was behind 9/11" is an insult to those who lost their lives and/or suffered from the event. That's just my opinion.
Yeah, "9/11 truth" isn't politics. Conspiracy theories do not = politics. And honestly, scientology, as batshit crazy as it is, makes more sense than 9/11 conspiracy theories.

That's not to say Orci can't direct a good movie. You do have to be creative to come up with this crazy bullshit.
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Old April 23 2014, 06:46 PM   #53
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Karl Urban said they had already chosen the director. I wonder if they didn´t reach an agreement.
Didn't he also say in an interview that Cumberbatch wasn't Khan? Or that he was.... oh I can't remember.
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Old April 23 2014, 07:26 PM   #54
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IIRC, it was Simon Pegg and Alice Eve who both explicitly asserted in interviews that he wasn't Khan.
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Old April 23 2014, 07:30 PM   #55
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Quentin Tarantino's Star Trek. Phaser fire, even on stun, leaves a hole clear through a human torso. Spock says "fuck" about 300 times.
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he'd also find a way to recast Samuel L. Jackson as Lt. Uhura too. I can see it now as they come in contact with a new alien race:


SLJ as Uhura: "English mother-f**ker, do you speak it?I"
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Re: ‘Star Trek 3′: Roberto Orci Wants to Direct

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IIRC, it was Simon Pegg and Alice Eve who both explicitly asserted in interviews that he wasn't Khan.
I'm pretty sure it was Urban who said Cumberbatch "made a great Gary Mitchell" or words to that effect.

EDIT: Here's an article on it...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...villain-346625

In an interview with SFX, Urban relayed his feelings about working alongside Sherlock Holmes actor Benedict Cumberbatch, revealing his long-concealed identity. “He’s awesome,” Urban said. “He’s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary.”
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Old April 23 2014, 08:21 PM   #57
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If Orci gets the director's chair, there will likely be questions whether he really directed it himself, or if Abrams was standing next to him making suggestions. Just like the debate on whether Howard Hawks or Christian Nyby directed The Thing from Another World.
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Old April 23 2014, 09:01 PM   #58
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How about Seth MacFarlane for the directors chair?
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Old April 23 2014, 09:03 PM   #59
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reading the outrage over tumblr and twitter, I'm surprised to see so many here and over trekmovie being fine with these (possible) news
some fans are having a tantrum over this and they created a petition to 'stop' Orci ..

I'm sort of indifferent about this. On one hand I don't know if it's a good move to have the last (possibly) movie directed by someone doing it for the first time.. (and we also have two new inexperienced writers) at the same time with JJ gone I honestly don't know if a completely new director could do more harm than good and ruin the potential that the first movie had. I think stid suffered from the fact that there were too many guys writing it and they didn't agree about everything..
I think my concern is that with the trek anniversary the writers might be even more tempted to 'copy and paste' stories from the old trek
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Old April 23 2014, 09:03 PM   #60
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I'm skeptical. Orci doesn't have a single directing credit on his rap sheet. I certainly wouldn't trust a novice first-time director on a high budget franchise, regardless of his success in producing or writing.
Like Nicholas Meyer? Who had only directed "Time After Time" prior to his directorial debut with the consensus "best" movie in the Star Trek Franchise?

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