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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old April 16 2014, 12:14 AM   #16
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Re: What If V'Ger had destroyed Earth?

Mostly harmless.
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Old April 16 2014, 12:29 AM   #17
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Old April 16 2014, 01:33 PM   #18
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Battlestar Galactica did just fine with no home world.
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Old April 16 2014, 08:03 PM   #19
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Also, after sorting through the data that he digitized, Vejur realizes the truth about his creator and ressurrects all x-billion humans (but maybe not the aliens--sorry) just long enough to merge with all of them. The entire human race thus ascends to a plane of existence that makes Kurzweil's singularity look like the 10th Circle of Hell.
Now, wouldn't this offer an interesting side point? Suppose Vejur whipped up Ilia-style androids of all the creatures on Earth and set them back, since, what the heck, what's it going to do with all that stored data after the merging?
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Old April 16 2014, 08:12 PM   #20
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Re: What If V'Ger had destroyed Earth?

He could take them with him and use them to populaute the 8th Dimension. These alt. Trek timeline creatures eventually evolve into Lectroids; indeed, that's why they eat electricty.

Not so outlandish: Yoyodyne is in Trek, which puts Trek in either the Banzaiverse or the Pynchonverse.
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Old April 17 2014, 08:11 AM   #21
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Also, after sorting through the data that he digitized, Vejur realizes the truth about his creator and ressurrects all x-billion humans (but maybe not the aliens--sorry) just long enough to merge with all of them. The entire human race thus ascends to a plane of existence that makes Kurzweil's singularity look like the 10th Circle of Hell.
Now, wouldn't this offer an interesting side point? Suppose Vejur whipped up Ilia-style androids of all the creatures on Earth and set them back, since, what the heck, what's it going to do with all that stored data after the merging?
One of the themes of my Youtube comic is the return of V'Ger's absorbed victims, including Decker and Ilia. You can call on all sorts of themes by ripping off capital from the cylons, Solaris, clone stories etc.
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Old April 20 2014, 11:05 PM   #22
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Ending the first-ever Trek movie with the destruction of Earth would have been a bold move, that much is sure. But probably a smart and popular one, too - after all, the movie had already bet on the audience liking the new Kirk, an incompetent and selfish asshole who fights the graying of his hair through arrogance, favoritism and unsound tactical decisions. Whoever said that protagonists had to be heroic or likeable? Whoever said they have to win? Well, Whoever was wrong: utter defeat is a great springboard for sequels! The more carnage, the more triuphing and/or escaping villains, the more desperation loaded into the post-cliffhanger spashdown, the better the hook for the audience to come and see how the next movie will up the ante.

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Old April 20 2014, 11:53 PM   #23
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It would be up to Kirk and his crew (but mostly Kirk, of course) to repopulate the species.

Perhaps Bones could GMO the women with some tribble genes to speed up the process.
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Old April 22 2014, 01:41 AM   #24
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I think that V'Ger's goal was not to destroy earth. It was to remove the carbon unit infestation because it believed that the carbon units interfered with The Creator. So, most likely, the plasma devices were geared toward digitizing organic units to data patterns. My guess is, to avoid pissing off the creator, V'Ger's weaponry wouldn't have destroyed Earth nor the machinery.

My guess is tha V'Ger would have digitized Earth's life forms, and then still not have contact with The Creator, and it would need to reevaluate its mission. This in itself might have forced V'Ger to "evolve" in a way, because it would need to completely start at square one in terms of its purpose.

Who knows? It's definitely an interesting "alternate universe" thought. Kind of like the Borg destroying the Federation in "Parallels" on TNG.
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Old April 26 2014, 03:53 AM   #25
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What would have happened had the Enterprise not interfered?

So V'Ger arrives at Earth, sends the signal and gets no response. What then? Digitize Earth? And then?
The corpse of Jonathan Archer rolls in its grave, because that crap with the Xindi was all for nothing.
If there's no Earth, then the Federation might collapse. So the Sphere Builders are unimpeded to successfully invade the galaxy in the 26th century.
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Old April 26 2014, 08:33 AM   #26
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So our heroes don't solve the problem and V'Ger fries Earth.

V'Ger itself is screwed because it never can find its Creator and have nowhere else to go.

What about of the rest of the Federation? Earth is gone. Are the Vulcans, Andorians and Telarites madly scrambling or meh? The enemies, Klingons and Romulans, did they threw a party or are afraid of V'Ger?
Obviously the seat of the Federation moves somewhere else, but maybe it'd survive Earth's destruction.

I mean, humanity itself would survive. Lot of humans on Starfleet ships and colonies nowhere near Earth by that time period.
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Old May 2 2014, 06:06 PM   #27
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If V'Ger destroyed Earth, Data's severed head buried in San Francisco would also be destroyed, creating a paradox that would destroy the universe. Nice going, Data.
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Old May 3 2014, 09:18 AM   #28
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Maybe a plot for a future JJverse film? After all- if you can blow up Vulcan...
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Old May 3 2014, 09:01 PM   #29
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Then we wouldn't have had the movie with the whales...or the one with God in it...umm, that's not so bad..

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Old May 3 2014, 09:46 PM   #30
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Life would continue from Mars.
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