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Old April 14 2014, 07:52 AM   #31
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Re: Does Voyager end up in its original universe?

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I only have a few episodes through Fan Collective sets, and there are many episodes I haven't seen since first run (including one I've not seen at all except for brief clips).

The ship went through many permutations of space, time, and alternate realities in seven years. Voyager left Deep Space 9, got snatched by the Caretaker, and eventually arrives back home sporting advanced Borg technology.

But is that welcoming committee with Admiral Paris and company from the same timeline/universe of the Deep Space 9 they left, or has Voyager actually wound up somewhere else?
Actually, the beginning of "Endgame" where the crew returned to Earth after 18 or so years was the correct universe. But Admiral Janeway decided to change history because her bitchy ass didn't like the fact that Chuckles and 7 of 9 were dead.
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Old April 14 2014, 08:03 AM   #32
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I'm not always sure that every first scene in an episode is taking place in "our" universe, especially in parallel universe stories. I can sort of accept it with TOS, TNG, and DS9, but not always with Voyager. And with ENT, I'm still not certain it's set in Kirk's universe. But these are just my interpretations.
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Old April 14 2014, 08:06 AM   #33
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OH totes.

You didn't like "Glorified Bricklayer picks up a spare" in season 5?

He gets much cooler with the Eyepatch.
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Old April 14 2014, 08:22 AM   #34
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I genuinely like his relationship with Anya which I think is touching and makes plenty of sense.

I liked him in Season one, and then I loathed and was irritated by him for a few seasons and then he redeemed himself via Anya and now he's back to being a Big Idiotic Putz.

As yet there is no eyepatch unless that is a cute nickname for Anya LOL.



AND NOW FOR STAR TREK CONTENT:

Sometimes he reminds me of Chakotay. Or rather, if they had decided YES we will write Chak stories, Chak stories all round! He would have come across like Xander. In both cases there is acting deficiency and not knowing what to do with him.
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Old April 14 2014, 08:26 AM   #35
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I'm not always sure that every first scene in an episode is taking place in "our" universe, especially in parallel universe stories. I can sort of accept it with TOS, TNG, and DS9, but not always with Voyager. And with ENT, I'm still not certain it's set in Kirk's universe. But these are just my interpretations.
Porthos was mentioned in the 2009 Kirk era movie, and have you see the final episode yet?

I really liked Observer Effect, that one with the Organians, not that it really solidified whether we were heading into the pilot from 1966 or nay.
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Old April 14 2014, 08:45 AM   #36
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I've watched TATV only once so far. That was enough, until I have to do it again for a review. I know I'm behind on my reviews, but until personal crap with dead computers and such get settled, I don't feel much like picking it up again yet.

With the frequent use of acronyms for titles, it sure is good they never did an episode called "They Were All That".
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^Maybe some of the fanbase would like that as a name for Resolutions.
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Old April 14 2014, 08:58 AM   #38
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Half the time I write "These are the Voyages", and the other half I write "These were the Voyages".

Meh.

Melakon, do you have a position on Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
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Old April 14 2014, 09:09 AM   #39
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I saw the original theatrical film and didn't like it. Because of it, I stayed away from the series. When it comes to sci-fi, horror, fantasy, I'm not really keen on comedy, preferring the genre be played straight. There are occasional exceptions, like Sleeper or Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein. Fantasy usually only works for me if Harryhausen's name is on it.
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Old April 14 2014, 09:31 AM   #40
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Buffy is something from the past.

I don't have to recommend it to people because they should already know that their lives are incomplete for the lack of Buffy in it.

I respect your choice, and one day you'll accidentally marathon half a season because you can't be bothered getting up from the sofa or find the remote, and hate yourself for taking so long.

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Old April 14 2014, 10:01 AM   #41
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I knew my life was incomplete, it was a hole just waiting to be filled.

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Old April 14 2014, 10:45 AM   #42
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William the Bloody?

Was his churlish good looks enough to make you follow him to that shithole Smallville?
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Old April 14 2014, 11:10 AM   #43
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Just.. no.
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Old April 14 2014, 11:10 AM   #44
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I only have a few episodes through Fan Collective sets, and there are many episodes I haven't seen since first run (including one I've not seen at all except for brief clips).

The ship went through many permutations of space, time, and alternate realities in seven years. Voyager left Deep Space 9, got snatched by the Caretaker, and eventually arrives back home sporting advanced Borg technology.

But is that welcoming committee with Admiral Paris and company from the same timeline/universe of the Deep Space 9 they left, or has Voyager actually wound up somewhere else?
There was *a* Janeway in Nemesis, so we know Voyager got home in Picard's never-ending Nexus fantasy, at least!

Seriously though, I have no idea. When ultra-weird stuff like "Year of Hell" (made even weirder by Seven replacing Kes in the jefferies tube, which brings free will across the multiverse into question, but that's another subject) happen with it's reset button weapon, and then we find out that what we have been seeing all these years is an edited Lyndsay Ballard-free version of Voyager... and how many episodes were really the Demon Planet duplicates?? *headache*
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Old April 14 2014, 11:21 AM   #45
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2 Demon episodes that they admitted to.

Meanwhile didn't you think it odd that the Borg where "wrong" in First Contact?

Either they were changed in TNG by Year of Hell, or the were changed in Voyager because of TNG Movie XIII First Contact.
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