RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,342
Posts: 5,502,318
Members: 25,118
Currently online: 743
Newest member: Ashanti

TrekToday headlines

IDW Publishing March 2015 Comics
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Paramount Star Trek 3 Expectations
By: T'Bonz on Dec 17

Star Trek #39 Sneak Peek
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Star Trek 3 Potential Director Shortlist
By: T'Bonz on Dec 16

Official Starships Collection Update
By: T'Bonz on Dec 15

Retro Review: Prodigal Daughter
By: Michelle on Dec 13

Sindicate Lager To Debut In The US Next Week
By: T'Bonz on Dec 12

Rumor Mill: Saldana Gives Birth
By: T'Bonz on Dec 12

New Line of Anovos Enterprise Uniforms
By: T'Bonz on Dec 11

Frakes: Sign Me Up!
By: T'Bonz on Dec 11


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek Fandom > Fan Fiction

Fan Fiction Other forums talk about Trek. We make it.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old April 12 2014, 07:47 AM   #16
surak-toc
Commander
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Cheers everyone so far for all the tips, they are going to help myself and everyone else here I am sure
surak-toc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 12 2014, 02:34 PM   #17
Chanukahjes
Commodore
 
Chanukahjes's Avatar
 
Location: Boston, the Gateway to the Galaxy
View Chanukahjes's Twitter Profile
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

I tend to write the medical mechanics of creating hybrids. E. g. people in a lab, messing around with gametes, chemicals, etc., trying to get chromosomes to line up. And sometimes they don't. For E2 (ENT) stories, I write Ikaarans and humans as being interbred via this kind of intervention but there are some extra genes and those are mainly shunted off to molar shape. Tucker and T'Pol have children via petri dish.

I do write one guy who's Klingon-Xindi sloth (arboreal) and human, but he's way into the future. The arboreal part makes him kind of paranoid as that species were prey animals for other Xindi sentient species, and powerful as he's got Klingon going on. The human part makes him a bit slighter so he's got a Napoleonic complex. But he is the only three species character I've got, and the human part is really only in there to make him smaller than your standard Klingon. He has issues and is having an affair. When his mistress starts blackmailing him (spoiler alert), he strangles her.

But yeah, most hybrids, there have to be reasons for this. And species aren't a monolith because we sure as hell aren't. Klingons can be cake bakers, and ballerinas, and marathon runners. Tellarites can be models, and carpenters, and rodeo riders.

Conflict is key in stories, particularly those that are over, say, 500 - 1000 words. There have to be reasons why we are peeking into this particular day.

Oh, another thing - POV. First person, third person limited, third person omniscient? Google these terms. If the story starts out as being in, I dunno, Janeway's head, then she doesn't know what Tuvok is thinking. She can make educated guesses but she does not really know.
__________________
Oh, Stewardess! I speak Jive!
http://www.jespah.com (fanfic with all ratings). Author of Untrustworthy
Artist formerly known as jespah.
Chanukahjes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 16 2014, 05:10 PM   #18
Mistral
Vice Admiral
 
Mistral's Avatar
 
Location: Between the candle and the flame
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Go with what feels comfortable to you. Avoid the Mary Sue. And for God's sakes-do not make your Science Officer a Vulcan! Other races understand science, too!
__________________
...sf fandom is only a personality disorder if you do it right.-Klaus
http://www.adastrafanfic.com - archive stories! www.4rumboys.com for honest gaming

Mistral is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 16 2014, 07:57 PM   #19
surak-toc
Commander
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

First off my Vulcan/klingon hybrid is not a lab created person, he is a product of a union between a emotionally compromised female Vulcan and a male klingon outcast(he was a outcast before the union) and my chief science officer is trill
surak-toc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 17 2014, 12:27 PM   #20
NiteOwl
Ensign
 
Location: Allentown, PA
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Hey hey, so's mine! lol cool.

My hybrid is actually very important to a big storyline that'll be coming. He's half vulcan, and half romulan. He's also the chief engineer. My chief science officer, and 'number one' is a female trill. My chief of security is andorian, my chief conn officer/pilot is klingon, doctor is human, captain is human, navigations officer is romulan. And I think that's it. I think I've also just given away a huge spoiler... oops.
NiteOwl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 18 2014, 09:26 AM   #21
surak-toc
Commander
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Oops indeed, a great spoiler though, going to be interesting to see it progresses
surak-toc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 25 2014, 04:24 PM   #22
surak-toc
Commander
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

I want everyone's opinion on this idea, what would you think when I say instead of the setting for starfleet academy being earth bound how about on the new ships in later years there a whole deck that's fitted with classrooms, labs, computer or what goes for a computer suites, weapons training/engineering suites, rec areas, dorms and what every student of the academy would need, that's where ships that are dimensionally transendient are brought into the mix, the lecturers are holograms who represent the actual people from earth starfleet academy with the occasional guest from the past as they were, for students to get in to this hands on academy the students have to complete one year on earth starfleet then complete a placement test to decide if they get in or have to stay on earth, the right students for this are chosen, a hands on front line experience, tell me would this idea work with in a story or series setting.

Additional - cadets have a the chance to choice 5 out of the 20 elective subjects

Last edited by surak-toc; April 25 2014 at 05:42 PM.
surak-toc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 26 2014, 02:36 AM   #23
Tiberius
Commodore
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Can you actually justify that, or is it being included just because it looks cool? A training ship that is "dimensionally transcendent"? What does that even mean? And isn't that like a university developing a particle accelerator just for the students to play with?
Tiberius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 26 2014, 06:46 AM   #24
surak-toc
Commander
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Basically as it's but in doctor who it's bigger on the inside, the ships still massive though,
the ship won't technically be a training ship, the academy only being on a single deck and the academy follows the same education structure as the earth base, being on a ship for some of the students is a hands on and more of a extra bit advanced part.
surak-toc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 26 2014, 07:23 AM   #25
Tiberius
Commodore
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Honestly, it sounds like it's just there for the sake of being cool. Both the TARDIS stuff and the fact that it is on a ship. And why would the ship need to be massive if it can be any size on the inside? Why not just have a Galaxy-class size ship inside a shuttlecraft?

And why do they need a training facility on a ship? If it's like a training vessel a la USS Valiant, then it's understandable (but would they really use this TARDIS technology on a ship like that?), but it sounds like it's just a ship they've decided to put a school in, and I've gotta wonder what the benefit of having a school that can fly is. Why not just have them going to the academy on Earth and when they need to be on a ship they can go on a dedicated training vessel?
Tiberius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 26 2014, 02:43 PM   #26
surak-toc
Commander
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Where I am coming from is that the ship be a used for what it's supposed to be, the academy should I say only be on certain ships, only some will have that facility on then, I will scrap the bigger on the inside bit, but I think by have a starfleet academy deck with the above facilities means instead of being grounded and only going on training exercises and what not it's all upfront first hand experience for new cadets, all real stuff
surak-toc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 26 2014, 04:04 PM   #27
JarodRussell
Vice Admiral
 
JarodRussell's Avatar
 
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Another thing I recognized upon watching Abramstrek 1... write the story for the real world first, and then translate it into space. If it makes sense in a real world scenario, it will make sense in sci fi as well.


nuKirk's journey from cadet to captain is completely ridiculous if you apply it to the real world. A madman with his own ship (let's say a submarine), and an arsenal of nuclear weapons has destroyed a Navy ship, and killed cadet Kirk's father in the process. Years later, he shows up again, and attacks a major city. Naval cadet Kirk is suspended for cheating on a test, but illegally boards the aircraft carrier Enterprise which is sent to the rescue mission. He runs into the command center and confronts the commanding officer (Pike) with his hunch about how it's the madman. When the Enterprise arrives, the rest of the fleet is already destroyed. Pike promotes cadet Kirk to First Officer (!). To save the ship, Pike takes a helicopter to the madman's ship, but drops Kirk and a couple of others in diving suits into the water to stop the nuclear bomb. Pike gets captured, Kirk fails the mission, and the bomb goes off. The city is completely destroyed. The Enterprise could escape the blast zone just in time.

Now, the actual First Officer (Spock) lost his mother in the explosion. He actually left his post (!), took a helicopter to rescue her, but she didn't make it. There is a heated confrontation with Kirk, who wants to go after the madman's submarine immediately. Spock exiles Kirk on a rescue boat on a deserted island (!), instead of putting him into the brig. The Enterprise heads off to meet up with the rest of the naval fleet.

Kirk manages to reach the outpost on the island. He steals a helicopter together with another exiled dude (Scotty) on the outpost, and catches up with the Enterprise. When they are caught, they are taken to the command center. There, Kirk causes a serious meltdown in Spock. Now, the entire crew of the aircraft carrier is completely baffled, no command hierarchy exists (!), so Kirk takes command of the whole thing. And the other dude from the island outpost is promoted to chief engineer of the aircraft carrier (!).

Eventually, Kirk and Spock do a sneak attack on the madman's ship before he can destroy yet another city, rescue Pike and detonate one of the nuclear bombs to destroy the ship.

After that, Kirk is promoted to commanding officer of the aircraft carrier.


This is an absolutely ridiculous story.
JarodRussell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 26 2014, 05:57 PM   #28
C.E. Evans
Vice Admiral
 
C.E. Evans's Avatar
 
Location: Ferguson, Missouri, USA
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

It's helpful not to lose sight of the forest because of the trees, IMO. I think it's real easy to get so caught up in the technical aspects of the ship, Starfleet, etc., that the story and characters are drowning in them. Details are important, but too much detail can be as bad (if not worse) as not enough detail because it can bog down a story. Not everything requires a full page or even a full paragraph explanation.

When I was writing fanfics (in ancient times), I tried to visualize them as 40-minute stories (an hour long episode without commercial breaks) and would read the dialogue of my characters aloud to see if the story was becoming too talky with exposition or if I was spending too much time describing things in the narrative and wasn't really moving the story or the characters along well.
__________________
"Don't sweat the small stuff--it makes you small-minded..."
C.E. Evans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 27 2014, 04:46 AM   #29
Gibraltar
Rear Admiral
 
Gibraltar's Avatar
 
Location: US Pacific Northwest
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

Characters, characters, characters… never forget they’re the underpinning of any good story. The reader has to be drawn in to your characters, to their stories, their hopes, fears, failures and triumphs. All the cool space battles and super-starships in the cosmos won’t make a bit of difference if your characters are paper-thin and the reader can’t identify with them.
__________________
ST: Gibraltar - The complete series at Ad Astra: ST: Gibraltar
Proud member of United Trek
Gibraltar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 27 2014, 06:22 AM   #30
Bry_Sinclair
Commodore
 
Bry_Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: Tactical withdrawl along the Klingon border
Re: Tips for writing a great Star Trek fanfiction story or series.

C.E. Evans wrote: View Post
It's helpful not to lose sight of the forest because of the trees, IMO. I think it's real easy to get so caught up in the technical aspects of the ship, Starfleet, etc., that the story and characters are drowning in them. Details are important, but too much detail can be as bad (if not worse) as not enough detail because it can bog down a story. Not everything requires a full page or even a full paragraph explanation.
Sounds good to me. When I start to work on a new fanfic, I think of what ship I want (so I know what crew to assign, eg a Sabre-Class with 40 crew is doubtful to have a counsellor on board for patrol missions) then look at who those aboard are that I can tell fun/interesting stories with. Once I have them, then I go back and look at tech specs, bot mostly just the basics: warp capabilities, armament, dimensions, etc.

The ship/station will be a part of your series, at times an important part, but don't get hung up on it. Also one ship doesn't have to do everything; if you want to do something with cadets, then make it a separate project, explore them away from space and adventure first, to see who they are and if they have the right stuff to make it in Starfleet, whilst on another ship entirely, the crew are off exploring.
__________________
Avatar: Captain Naya, U.S.S. Renown NCC-1415 [Star Trek: Four Years War]
Manip by: JM1776 (STPMA.net)
Bry_Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:02 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.