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Old April 6 2014, 11:24 PM   #16
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

I did say in regards to what has been seen (released) already, so trailers for the next episode counts as well as the Marvel Studios: Assembling a Universe special that was released, so Talbot is open to speculate about.

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Since HYDRA has its roots in SHEILD and given what's happened in recent episodes of AoS, it seems there's at least one traitor on board the bus. Who? Who could have been working with a different agenda this whole season?
I think it's Ward but I also think that's not Ward. It's a stretch but in CA:TWS, Black Widow disguises herself as a counsel member so the technology exists.
And even if it is it doesn't mean that Ward (or notWard) is the only spy.

Do you think there's a clear point in time when he could have been replaced or do you think it just happened off-screen at any point in the last few episodes?
It happened to Bashir.

I want to say on his way back from inspecting the cleared prison. It's odd no one was there (and the coffee behind the window was still hot) but the episode continued without explaining it. That would mean Antoine Triplett is the double agent though in other threads I also expressed that if Ward is the double agent, Triplett would replace him.
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Old April 6 2014, 11:43 PM   #17
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I think it likely that Ward was taking orders from somebody with authority who was working for the other side. But the potential for his having been replaced in a seemingly-abandoned prison is a consideration.
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Old April 7 2014, 12:01 AM   #18
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Which reminds me, we still have that alien equation that the Clairvoyant wanted to deal with
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Old April 7 2014, 12:09 AM   #19
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Maybe Skye can solve it...maybe it's code for the music of "All Along the Watchtower"....

FWIW, somebody posted in the TWS thread that USA Today has a story about the direction that AoS will be taking in its last six episodes of the season. The team will be operating on its own, and it looks like TV viewers will be massively spoiled about the main twist in TWS.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:08 AM   #20
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^I read the non-spoiler spoiler, if you want to be surprised watching the next episode, avoid it.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:15 AM   #21
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I have a feeling Coulson and Co. are going to be going in the direction of the A-Team, Airwolf, Knight Rider and so on before them and end up operating from the bus as a rogue group on their own. It would have the bonus of making it easier for them to explain the smaller scale of the show. Although I'm not sure how they'll explain where they get the fuel if they go that route.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:37 AM   #22
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Lots of places to go with this thread. Somehow this event, which I thought would limit options, seems to open up endless possibilities.

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The big question between TWS and AoS is whether or not the Zola program is the Clairvoyant. From the way they described the program as working, it would be kind of a redundant concept if it isn't! OTOH, the so-called Clairvoyant could still be an individual with high security clearance and/or access to information from the Zola program (the most likely suspect ATM being Hand).
I'm still seeing MODOK as a possibility, related to Zola's equation. They have an opportunity to expand on that concept without contradicting TWS at all.

OK, now for the zany idea. Does anyone think the machine that implanted the memory of Tahiti in Coulson's brain is the same technology used to wipe Bucky Barnes's memory and turn him into the Winter Soldier?
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Not the same design.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:42 AM   #24
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Sure, but I was asking if it was the same technology. Obviously, the one for the Winter Soldier is more sophisticated and compact, but SHIELD and HYDRA are essentially the same entity, so the connection seems to be there.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:47 AM   #25
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I get the impression that Bucky underwent more traditional brainwashing methods. It seemed to me like they were electroshocking him.

Also, I think MODOK would be kind of redundant with Zola. The one thing I wouldn't expect them to dip into at this point is MODOK.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:57 AM   #26
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Is Electroshocking really all that effective, particularly in the way they were doing it to erase memories but still preserve your combat experience. Then again, the bit in the mouth, etc. seems similar to what actual electroshock therapy involved, but I'm not sure that's the only reason it might exist in a painful procedure. I'm just saying, given the connection, it's a possibility. Both involve memory tampering. I'm curious if it was intentional by the AoS writers.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:59 AM   #27
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Don't ask me, I don't brainwash people for a living...and neither do Hollywood blockbuster writers....
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Sure. I'd be curious to see how the script describes that scene. That would give a good idea of both what they intended and whether the AoS writers intended to mirror that idea. Given that they may not have had a rough cut back then, it's possible they didn't even know what that scene would look like (although I suspect they imagined their machine having a certain look either way).
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Old April 7 2014, 02:45 AM   #29
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A couple more interesting points in TWS:

Stephen Strange is referenced in the same breath as Bruce Banner as being on Hydra's target list...suggesting that he's already more than a surgeon in the MCU.

I remember some speculation in one thread or another a bit back as to whether or not Cap's identity was public knowledge in the MCU. TWS cleared that up.
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Old April 7 2014, 02:58 AM   #30
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Stephen Strange is referenced in the same breath as Bruce Banner as being on Hydra's target list...suggesting that he's already more than a surgeon in the MCU.
Feige was asked about this. His response is that the equation predicts future threats too.
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