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Old April 3 2014, 07:57 PM   #16
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Re: The Doomsday Machine love

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Made even more so now that we know Decker survived the explosion and lived the rest of his natural life in late twentieth century and early twenty first century
No.
Also no. Nothing about that production worked for me.
Same here. it was from the Before Times, when they made a couple of total fanwank disasters before getting their acts together.
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Old April 3 2014, 08:08 PM   #17
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I agree with the OP. This has been my favorite episode since I first saw it in the late 1960's. I have watched it hundreds of times including 3-4 times this year. I never get tired of watching it. Everything just came together perfectly in the DM. What's even more amazing is that it was filmed in only 5 days (at least 1 day less than other episodes) and came in under budget!!! On top of all of that we get to see Auxiliary Control for the first time. Awesome, just awesome!!!
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Old April 3 2014, 08:17 PM   #18
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I love the episode, remastered effects or not. Though the original's final shots of the Constellation looked like the AMT model it really was.

McCoy makes a crucial error when he beams over with Decker in the middle of battlestations. Instead of taking him to sickbay for an exam, he says "Come on!" and hustles Decker to the bridge.
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Old April 3 2014, 11:27 PM   #19
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Bit roles that still ended up becoming favorites to many fans: Lt Palmer, Washburn, the kickass security guy...
You could at least have mentioned the guy's name...but no worries: I grabbed the image right from the episode credits!

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Old April 4 2014, 12:21 AM   #20
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It probably looked like hell under normal lighting in real life, but as an alien looking device made of very unweildy material (neutronium) it looked great. Everyone I've seen trying to update this thing all ended up looking cartoony.
Tell me about it! Getting the proportions right is achievable if one uses that side shot just as the Constellation explodes as a template, but that strange iridescent surface is nigh impossible to recreate!



I'm still experimenting with various "shaders", That's why I was so curious whether any "behind the scenes" information about the planet killer miniature existed.

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Old April 4 2014, 12:24 AM   #21
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Bit roles that still ended up becoming favorites to many fans: Lt Palmer, Washburn, the kickass security guy...
You could at least have mentioned the guy's name...but no worries: I grabbed the image right from the episode credits!

Now THAT is funny!!


Thanks for making me laugh!
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Old April 4 2014, 12:31 AM   #22
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It probably looked like hell under normal lighting in real life, but as an alien looking device made of very unweildy material (neutronium) it looked great. Everyone I've seen trying to update this thing all ended up looking cartoony.
Tell me about it! Getting the proportions right is achievable if one uses that side shot just as the Constellation explodes as a template, but that strange iridescent surface is nigh impossible to recreate!



I'm still experimenting with various "shaders", That's why I was so curious whether any "behind the scenes" information about the planet killer miniature existed.

Sincerely,

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A few years ago someone did some research into the original miniature and determined that it was aluminum foil with blue lighting gels taped over it. Seems reasonable considering the budget. Despite what is written; it does not appear to be a "windsock dipped in cement."







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Old April 4 2014, 01:45 AM   #23
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Bit roles that still ended up becoming favorites to many fans: Lt Palmer, Washburn, the kickass security guy...
You could at least have mentioned the guy's name...but no worries: I grabbed the image right from the episode credits!

Now THAT is funny!!
Loved it!
Oh we love our seldom-seen characters. Like Slap-Happy Surgeon Dude and Oh-so-Fine Scrappy Shrink Babe...
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Old April 4 2014, 02:55 AM   #24
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A few years ago someone did some research into the original miniature ...
That "someone" would be Daren Dochterman, hence his signature on the images you posted.
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Old April 4 2014, 03:20 AM   #25
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Thank you, I'm old and couldn't read the name
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Old April 4 2014, 03:59 AM   #26
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Bit roles that still ended up becoming favorites to many fans: Lt Palmer, Washburn, the kickass security guy...
You could at least have mentioned the guy's name...but no worries: I grabbed the image right from the episode credits!

Now THAT is funny!!


Thanks for making me laugh!
Anytime!

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Thank you, I'm old and couldn't read the name
Don't feel bad, I couldn't read it either.
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Old April 4 2014, 10:22 PM   #27
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Re: The Doomsday Machine love

It's my favourite episode of Trek ever, too. It was the first VHS I bought when I was 8 years old, and it's the only video tape i currently own!

I loved Decker in the command chair "I don't recognise your authority to relieve me" type fights with Spock, Kirk and McCoy.

The music was also amazing and I love the SFX.


Great acting, pace, writing, plot, action shots and co-operative starship attacks. Brilliant!
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Old April 4 2014, 10:50 PM   #28
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And written by Norman Spinrad, no less.

(This is where I brag about Norman being one of my old writing instructors, who taught me how to write a novel outline.)
That's fantastic!
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Old April 5 2014, 04:42 AM   #29
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our seldom-seen characters. Like Slap-Happy Surgeon Dude...
And I will hear that guy's insane laughter 'till the day I die!

Balok's got nothin' on him!

But more thread-relevant: that energy effect animation inside the Doomsday Machine, as seen when Decker's shuttle was getting swallowed up, was far superior in the original episode. It seemed to be some kind of real energy. The effect in the remastered version seemed...I don't know...reminiscent of something from a Max Fleischer Superman cartoon or something.
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Old April 6 2014, 03:25 AM   #30
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I initially read the name of this thread with the words in the wrong order: "The Doomsday Love Machine"

And all I could think was, MAN, don't piss off the Deltans!
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