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Old April 4 2014, 11:57 PM   #31
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Re: Things you can do from Astrometrics -but not from bridge/engineeri

Maybe the humans use the word "hatching" because they need a word they associate with birth.
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Old April 5 2014, 12:17 AM   #32
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Point is, if there are unilaterally unassimilatabe species (like the the Kazon?), a handful of these "unclean" would make fantastic pointmen/diplomats to bargain a treaty with the Borg on the Federations behalf.

I have maintained (because I'm a dick who will not see reason.) that the Borg are a Peace Corps bringing civilization to the boon docks of the Galaxy. Nothing evil, and nothing malicious. It's just sometimes the Christian Missionaries have to march into the little African villages, lock the adults in cages and hold all the children down while polio vaccinations are forced on them (More of a yesterday scenario than a today scenario.).

But the Borg are not going to fire on a ship that is staffed by beings they will not assimilate who are not taking an aggressive stance against them... Which is why Janeway should have signed up the Kazon, or handed the Federation over to the Kazon (in name) so that as the Cubes met the new borders of Kazon space in the Alpha Quadrant, the Borg should say "HELL NO!"

Although the Borg physically couldn't assimilate 8472, they were too single minded of purpose to stop trying even though it was impossible. At what point do their rules engagement change? Could they reaccess the Kazon and try assimilating them again some day or are the Kazon forever tainted?
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Old April 5 2014, 12:33 AM   #33
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And why are they unassimilatable? We needed to know. I mean sure they are kind of stupid but the Borg assimilate plenty of other stupid people. I would have thought they could use them just to hold stuff up, as door jambs etc..

And is Seska's baby safe or has his superior Cardassian DNA made him vulnerable?

MAYBE the Kazon just break down real quick, brain function ceases, bodies fall apart and turn to jelly.. maybe they take way too much maintenance to even be door jambs.
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Old April 5 2014, 12:52 AM   #34
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So they were laughing at Kes for only living for 9 years, because they lived for 11?
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Old April 5 2014, 01:12 AM   #35
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No they live don't live to 11.. they are just perhaps POROUS?! Maybe they are the tree people and that isn't mud, but bark in their hair. And they rapidly deteriorate when assimilated and are not worth it.
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Old April 5 2014, 01:19 AM   #36
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Maybe they're afraid that Kazon hair will become Drone norm?
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Old April 5 2014, 01:24 AM   #37
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So you're saying the Borg have rejected them because of fashion?

How shallow.

Hey you know the Kazon hair looks similar to the tree people hair in Who.
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Old April 5 2014, 01:30 AM   #38
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I always thought the Kazon were unassimilated because they were unexceptional. Their technology was derived from another race but they never improved on it. Their intelligence certainly seems sub-par.
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Old April 5 2014, 02:09 AM   #39
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I'm going with trees. Plant material. They don't graft well so assimilation ruins them.
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If the Borg met 90 foot tall sentient dinosaurs... Imagine how much bigger their cubes would have to be to cart those monsters around?

Do you think that the Borg would have difficulty assimilating silicone based lifeforms like the Horta?
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Old April 5 2014, 02:52 AM   #41
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All the Borg need to do with unwieldly life forms is assimilate a bunch on the life form's home planet, suck up all the knowledge and abilities and then abandon them.

What does the Horta have to offer? Ancient wisdom of the rocks.. I'm pretty sure the Borg would not be interested.

(Pinkie Pie's sister would befriend the Horta.)
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Old April 5 2014, 02:57 AM   #42
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The Borg would be interested in the Horta's corrosive acids that could potentially be used as a weapon.
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All the Borg do is strip mine planets for resources and technology.

The Horta would be a superb addition.

The Borg are a community of equals, not vampire users.

They don't cherry pick.

Also, the Borg are not aggressive.

Their weapon systems for their level of technology are purely defensive.

They stun and then assimilate.

Of course they almost never fight someone evenly matched, so what they call defensive weapons, might not seem like that from the perspective of someone 4 hundreds years junior to Borg development.

It's very rare that the Borg actually have missions all about killing a target.

Hell.

Drones don't every carry hand weapons.

When they get boots on the ground somewhere, they expect to be welcomed with open arms as liberators and saviours, and just because that has never happened, how is that their fault?
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Old April 5 2014, 03:10 AM   #44
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Eh, basic stuff. I'm sure they've come across all kinds of corrosive acids. Can't compare to 8472 climbing up the hull and existing in fluidic space.
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Old April 5 2014, 03:12 AM   #45
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I wonder if the Borg assimilated a bunch of Ferengi early on in Borg history and that's what got them so borg bent on acquiring, acquiring, acquiring. The Ferengi don't run around killing either, they want to use everything for profit, not destroy it.

Acquire and assimilate, profit and perfection.
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