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Old April 3 2014, 08:44 AM   #16
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Re: RIP Kate O'Mara (aka The Rani)

Such a shame, R.I.P

I would have loved to see her appear as the Rani again, even if just to regen into another actor, but alas it was not to be.
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Old April 4 2014, 02:21 AM   #17
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Such a shame, R.I.P

I would have loved to see her appear as the Rani again, even if just to regen into another actor, but alas it was not to be.
Agreed. I even had some fun theories about how she might have survived the Time War. (I figured she was able to chemically transform herself into some other species so that the Doctor & the Master wouldn't telepathically recognize her as another Time Lord. So when she first appeared, she would be some kind of exotic hybrid, like a snake-lady or something.)
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Old April 5 2014, 02:05 PM   #18
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^^What a great idea, it fits in nicely with her character as well.
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Old April 12 2014, 07:53 PM   #19
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I would have liked her as Cassandra from the new series.
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Old June 27 2014, 12:13 AM   #20
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Big Finish have announced that the Rani will return in a forthcoming audio drama, portrayed by a new actress. The script in question was actually written for O'Mara, who had contacted BF about reprising the character for them. Recording was only a few weeks out when O'Mara passed away. Naturally BF were uncertain what course to take, until O'Mara's agent told them that the actress had wanted the character to continue in a new incarnation. So The Rani Elite, written by Who tie-in stalwart Justin Richards, will feature Siobhan Redmond in the role, alongside the sixth Doctor and Peri.
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Old June 27 2014, 12:21 AM   #21
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The Sixth and Peri? Hm... Timey-whimey, considering Time and the Rani...
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Old June 27 2014, 12:25 AM   #22
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Well, Six and Peri first met the Rani in Mark of the Rani. Or, were you referring to something else?
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Old June 27 2014, 02:41 AM   #23
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He means that, assuming Siobhan Redmond is playing a different incarnation, then either 6 and Peri meet an earlier Rani, or a later one than the one the 7th Doctor meets.
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Old June 27 2014, 05:58 AM   #24
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D'oh! For some reason I just assumed she'd be playing the same incarnation. But, I have no reason why she would!

Well, the 3rd Doctor met the Master out of sequence before in The Five Doctors when he met the Ainley incarnation. And, there's really no reason why the Doctor would have to meet the Rani strictly in order. Of course, Mel wouldn't be confused because she first met the Rani in Time and the Rani. So, there wouldn't seem to be any more than the usual wibbly wobbly stuff involved with time travel and meeting anyone out of sequence.

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Old June 27 2014, 09:38 AM   #25
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Well, the 3rd Doctor met the Master out of sequence before in The Five Doctors when he met the Ainley incarnation.
True. But that Master had met the Fifth Doctor in sequence. And the Third Doctor rarely met the Master out of order (from what we were made to understand, at least). OldWho generally didn't play with the possibilities of these things back then. Maybe its too bad that they didn't, but it was really rare.

And, there's really no reason why the Doctor would have to meet the Rani strictly in order. Of course, Mel wouldn't be confused because she first met the Rani in Time and the Rani. So, there wouldn't seem to be any more than the usual wibbly wobbly stuff involved with time travel and meeting anyone out of sequence.
I don't disagree. But for Old Who, its rather rare that the Doctor and recurring non-Dalek villains meet out of order.
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Old June 27 2014, 02:41 PM   #26
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Agree that it was very rare for Classic Who, but I don't think it imposes any more temporal paradoxes than meeting just a regular person out of order.

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Old June 27 2014, 03:10 PM   #27
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Agree that it was very rare for Classic Who, but I don't think it imposes any more temporal paradoxes than meeting just a regular person out of order.

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Doesn't the show establish that Time Lords Time Lines are synched, and as long as you don't break the Laws of Time, you meet in the same order? 1-3 being in the same place as Ainley Master was due to Laws of Time being broken (Scooped up out of their own Time line).
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Old June 27 2014, 06:56 PM   #28
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I can't remember that being officially established onscreen as a rule, but it seems to be what happened in practice. Unless I'm forgetting something, which is entirely possible! But, I think fans have interpreted the practice as being a rule.

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Old June 27 2014, 07:05 PM   #29
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I don't think there's ever been any rules regarding what ordrer Time Lords meet each let alone themselves. As we learned inthe The Curse Of Fatal Death, if a Time Lord goes back in time to mess a former self the other Time Lord came just go futher back in time and alter history again.
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