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Old April 6 2014, 09:33 PM   #31
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Re: TNG, DS9, and VOY - Where is a Good Place to Start?

^The chart isn't about importance, just connectivity. All the books (except installments of a specific trilogy, miniseries, etc.) are designed to be accessible on their own without requiring you to read a hundred other things. The continuity links across different works or series are a bonus.
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Old April 6 2014, 09:40 PM   #32
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Yeah, the comics are really just there as ancillary pieces. They're a neat bit of additional material if you're into them, but they don't contribute to the overall continuity in any major way like the novels do.
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Old April 6 2014, 11:36 PM   #33
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If it helps any, with the exception of the New Frontier comics which are important to that series, I haven't read any of the rest of the comics myself. 8of5 added them to the flowchart. I'll take his word for it, but like you, I'm not a comics person in general, and I haven't felt like I've missed anything.
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Old April 7 2014, 01:59 AM   #34
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That's one thing I didn't like about New Frontier, just how much "Double Time" was referred to and was relied on in later novels, and yet it was only in print for a short time, and back then most book stores were not carrying graphic novels.
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Old April 7 2014, 03:30 AM   #35
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The Christie Golden Voyager novels are actually pretty good. They're not anywhere near the level of the Beyer ones, but they're entertaining. Beyer does a lot of 'fixing' of those novels, but they're often mentioned enough that you're going to want to go back and reread them if you skip them.
But why do the Golden Voyager books need fixing? They need fixing because they are seriously broken.
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Old April 7 2014, 06:47 PM   #36
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Ok.. you don't like the books. You can quit quoting that post of mine every few days.
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Old April 8 2014, 11:10 AM   #37
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I finished Avatar, Book 1 last night ..........
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Anyway, that was a great read. I think yesterday I went from Chapter 13 to the end, mainly because everything was coming together and all I wanted to do was read on. Heck, even the epilogue, which I was thinking about doing today, was short enough where I was like, "screw it, it's late but I'm finishing this book tonight."
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it was just such a fun read that I am looking forward to reading book 2.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it.
You'll no doubt enjoy the second book and the rest of the relaunch series as well.

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As for the plot and characters, it seemed like everyone got a chance to shine. I really liked meeting the new characters, Shar, Bowers, Tenmei, and especially Commander Vaughn. In fact, one of the things I loved about this book was how introspective it was. You had Commander Vaughn who was looking for a sense of direction, and receiving an epiphany on the Freighter with the Orb of Memory, and his conversation with Picard afterward.
The DS9 Relaunch has some great new character added to the mix.
Although Commander Vaughn is by far my favourite.

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You also had Ro (Which was a welcome surprise) and her conflict with Kira and how introspective that was, with Ro realizing she didn't have a place to go and DS9 was really the only Home she had. There was character conflict, but it was character conflict that made sense and added to the mythos in a very significant way, if that makes sense.
It makes sense.
I loved see Ro back in the spotlight again, and it's wonderful to see her character grow in this and the other books.


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Overall though, there is one thing this book provided greater than anything else, and that was the aspect of brand new Star Trek, set in the 24th century during a time when I was excited to be a fan. I know it's not Canon, but to me that doesn't mean anything, especially now when I think we won't be getting any more 24th century prime universe stuff. Canon or not, it doesn't matter to me at all. It's brand new Star Trek, and I can't wait to dig deeper into it.
I always considered the relaunch books as canon as the TV shows and films. Like yourself, and no doubt many others it's great to see the stories continued.

Enjoy Book 2
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Old April 8 2014, 01:17 PM   #38
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Re: TNG, DS9, and VOY - Where is a Good Place to Start?

The DS9-R really is a perfect way to get into Treklit. It is very well done and feels so much like the show all while introducing you to great new characters that quickly become as integral to the story as someone like Kira or Odo.
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Old April 12 2014, 06:03 PM   #39
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Re: TNG, DS9, and VOY - Where is a Good Place to Start?

Avatar II

I loved Avatar I, mainly for the excitement of new trek and new DS9 to dig into. However, it was obvious set up for book 2 and thankfully, I was able to read book 2 right after book 1. I know a lot of complaints for these two books were that they could have been one novel, and I agree, but from my perspective, they almost were.

Anyway, I loved Avatar II. They took everything from book 1 and paid it off, while still leaving the groundwork for the rest of the DS9 Relaunch. There was plenty of action, from Kitan'iklan almost destroying the station to Kira and Vaughn saving the station, and the revelations about Oihalu's book and the prophecies within. We also got an Odo sighting, and the introduction to Toran'atar, who I took to be the new Odo, an outsider who really is at the station with peaceful intentions but is there to learn about other cultures.

I think the thing I loved most about this book, much like Avatar 1, was the journeys the characters take, and how the novel was very character driven. I've only started reading the novels in the Trek-lit verse, but so far my favorite characters are Commander Vaughn and Colonial Kira.

Kira's story here was absolutely incredible. It's amazing how much Perry got her so right, how in Season 1 she was this difficult person to work with who didn't believe the federation had any right to be there, to Season 7 helping the cardassians fighting the dominion, to these books where she was more than a capable leader. She makes everyone around her stronger, even Ro, who she had problems with but still worked well together. But the real reason I love Kira? It was the end of the book where she sent the book to Bajor's general public saying everyone has the right to know this book exists, and then her Orb of Memory experience and Chapter 18 when she reveals the 10,000 graves in the lower part of Bal'hala. In fact, when I was reading that chapter, I actually got a little emotional, mainly when Kira told Kasidy that these people died for what they believed in and that her baby wasn't a symbol or an icon. I think that chapter and scene might have been my favorite scene in the entire book. As for Vaughn, man his journey from Orb Experience to First officer on DS9 was equally as impressive. For a new character, he sure made an impact in a major way.

It will be interesting to see where things go from here. I have two more books and a short story to finish the Twist of Faith omnibus, but then I wonder what story next. Do I go with the Mission Gamma series, or jump ahead to Rising Son and Unity, which appear to pick up the events of Avatar in a big way (Based on reading the plot synopsis.

Still, that's a little far off. The next book is Abyss and it's a Section 31 story. That should be fun.
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Old April 12 2014, 06:13 PM   #40
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Avatar is definitely incredible.

And yes, follow the flowchart - they all go in order. Don't skip Mission: Gamma.
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Old April 12 2014, 11:08 PM   #41
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What Thrawn said.
The whole series of books from Avatar Book 1 - The Soul Key, is pretty much one giant arc that really needs to be read in order to get the full impact.
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And someday maybe we will get the end to that arc.
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Old April 13 2014, 07:29 AM   #43
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What Thrawn said.
The whole series of books from Avatar Book 1 - The Soul Key, is pretty much one giant arc that really needs to be read in order to get the full impact.
According to the chart, there are a few I can read (Stitch in Time, Left Hand of Destiny, and Lives of Dax) that I can read anytime. Maybe after Twist of Faith I might try to read and finish LHOD this time. Also put Mission Gamma on my wish list, even though I might go to the library and see if they have any of these books too. Might be cheaper.
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Old April 13 2014, 02:01 PM   #44
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To the OP: Since you've already started the 'DS9 Relaunch', I'd suggest moving forward as follows:
Section 31: Abyss
Gateways: Demons of Air and Darkness
Gateways: Horn and Ivory
Mission Gamma: Twilight
Mission Gamma: This Gray Spirit
Mission Gamma: Cathedral
Mission Gamma: Lesser Evil
Rising Son
Unity
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Vol. 1
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Vol. 2
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Vol. 3
Warpath
Fearful Symmetry
The Soul Key
The Never-Ending Sacrifice
Destiny: Gods of Night
Destiny: Mere Mortals
Destiny: Lost Souls
A Singular Destiny

Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire
Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game
Typhon Pact: Paths of Disharmony
Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night
Typhon Pact: Raise the Dawn
Typhon Pact: Brinkmanship
The Fall: Revelation and Dust
The Fall: The Crimson Shadow
The Fall: A Ceremony of Losses

Note: The books in Italicized font are not officially considered part of the 'Relaunch', but feature DS9-related characters in prominent roles
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Old April 13 2014, 02:50 PM   #45
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^The Fall: The Poisoned Chalice features Nog, Bashir, and Ezri in significant roles.
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