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Old March 30 2014, 01:38 PM   #16
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Re: TNG, DS9, and VOY - Where is a Good Place to Start?

"Homecoming" and "Farther Shore" were great starts to Voyager's Season 8 books (there's a preview for Homecoming in the "Endgame" novelization).
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Old March 30 2014, 01:56 PM   #17
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I also liked those forst two books. They aren't anywhere near as good as what I imagine Kirsten Neyer would have done with the story, but they were definitely worth reading. The Spirit Walk duology however, was rediculous. If it wasn't for the fact of me being a completist, I'd say skip those.
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Old March 30 2014, 04:23 PM   #18
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Re: TNG, DS9, and VOY - Where is a Good Place to Start?

The Christie Golden Voyager novels are actually pretty good. They're not anywhere near the level of the Beyer ones, but they're entertaining. Beyer does a lot of 'fixing' of those novels, but they're often mentioned enough that you're going to want to go back and reread them if you skip them.
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Old March 31 2014, 02:01 PM   #19
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Re: TNG, DS9, and VOY - Where is a Good Place to Start?

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Well, I had funds in my Amazon account so I decided to buy Twist of Faith tonight and just started Avatar. I bought the E-book version and got through the first part and the prologue. Good start so far but it's still early. One of the reasons to get an Ipad was to force myself to read more and there is a lot of 24th century trek that I still don't know about.
I would follow the timeline then from DS9 and let that lead you into the other series like Voyager and then TNG after Nemesis
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Old April 2 2014, 02:45 AM   #20
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If you want to cheat and find out what happened during a certain book without reading it, Memory Beta, the non-canon Star Trek wiki is very useful. Some of the entries are quite out of date, but if you're looking for info for older stuff like DS9R, the first couple VoyR or the A Time To.. books most entries are at least that far into the timeline. It was how I caught up on the Voyager Relaunch for the Beyer books without reading the Golden books.
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Old April 2 2014, 04:58 AM   #21
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If you want to cheat and find out what happened during a certain book without reading it, Memory Beta, the non-canon Star Trek wiki is very useful. Some of the entries are quite out of date, but if you're looking for info for older stuff like DS9R, the first couple VoyR or the A Time To.. books most entries are at least that far into the timeline. It was how I caught up on the Voyager Relaunch for the Beyer books without reading the Golden books.
But the point of this is I do want to read the books. Looking at the listing, it does seem overwhelming so I just go with a book and hope it makes sense. I do know about that wiki site though and have used it as a resource.
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Old April 2 2014, 04:33 PM   #22
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SJSharksfan39 wrote: View Post

But the point of this is I do want to read the books. Looking at the listing, it does seem overwhelming so I just go with a book and hope it makes sense. I do know about that wiki site though and have used it as a resource.
I can certainly understand in how it can seem overwhelming. Many of us here have been reading these books for years and have followed the various series in anticipation of each new book. Now looking back I can see we have covered a LOT of ground over the years but the time spent has been well worth it, with very few exceptions.

In my opinion I think it's best to narrow it down to a single favorite series to start with and use Thrawn's flowchart to help guide you. Since I see you started with the DS9 relaunch I have say that is an excellent place to start. I envy you in a way because you will be getting to experience the greatness of storytelling in many of these books for the first time. I hope that you enjoy them as much as we have over the years and become as addicted to collecting and reading them as many of us have too. The more fans that buy and read the books the more money the authors make and the more willing Pocket will be to continue the current course of high quality stories.

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Old April 2 2014, 05:27 PM   #23
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I think you are going to enjoy it. You'll be surprised how fast it will go, I think. Before you know it you'll be done with the DS9 and ready for TNG! It's going to be fun for you. You can also check out Literary Treks, the books and comics podcast on Trek.fm, we are doing a slow re-read of the DS9r
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Old April 3 2014, 03:28 AM   #24
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I haven't read any of the trek novels, but I'm thinking about getting some (Got an Ipad for Christmas, and I really need to do more reading) and I was wondering if there were any good recommendations. I know there is the DS9 Relaunch (I started Left Hand of Destiny but never finished it) but anything else out there for a newbie to get started? Also, I mention these three series because they were my favorite series and I just love that "era" in general. I also love the Movie era, but probably should start with the 24th century and go from there.

Thanks in advance for the recommendations.
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Old April 3 2014, 03:32 AM   #25
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I think it's an insanely missed opportunity. Voyager's return could've been something so complex and fascinating, full of surprises. Instead, no one faces consequences for anything and everything Golden doesn't like is just ignored or swept under the rug and no one grows or changes or has to make any important decisions or anything. When Beyer took over, the Voyager novels became arguably the best thing TrekLit has going - they're incredibly fantastic. A lot of what Golden missed or skipped or didn't think of, Beyer comes back with later in fine form. But it makes Golden's novels pretty staggeringly pointless in hindsight.
I found Golden's attempt at Voy-R to have been the equivalent of Michael Martin's Titan book.
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Old April 3 2014, 03:33 AM   #26
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The Christie Golden Voyager novels are actually pretty good. They're not anywhere near the level of the Beyer ones, but they're entertaining. Beyer does a lot of 'fixing' of those novels, but they're often mentioned enough that you're going to want to go back and reread them if you skip them.
Pretty good? Nah! Too many missed opportunities and too much missing that should be there. I'd go with lackluster at best.
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Old April 4 2014, 03:27 PM   #27
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Old April 6 2014, 05:19 PM   #28
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I finished Avatar, Book 1 last night and figured here would be a good place to post some thoughts about it. I actually might just use this thread as a way to post thoughts on the books that I do read, considering I am just starting the Trek novel-verse and if I went anywhere else in the forum, I might find out things that I don't want to find out, yet.

Anyway, that was a great read. I think yesterday I went from Chapter 13 to the end, mainly because everything was coming together and all I wanted to do was read on. Heck, even the epilogue, which I was thinking about doing today, was short enough where I was like, "screw it, it's late but I'm finishing this book tonight."

I think the thing that got me as I was reading this book was this is the type of thing I wanted, and thanks to this, and the Trek.fm network of podcasts (Shout out to you Enterpriserules ), my interest in Trek is kind of reinvigorated. As much as I have liked Abrams trek (Even though I didn't like Star Trek Into Darkness that much, but it was still an ok film) I grew up with 24th century Star Trek, the TNG, DS9, and Voyager Era. Reading this, it felt like I was finally getting new DS9 and in the final few chapters when everything was coming together, it was just such a fun read that I am looking forward to reading book 2.

As for the plot and characters, it seemed like everyone got a chance to shine. I really liked meeting the new characters, Shar, Bowers, Tenmei, and especially Commander Vaughn. In fact, one of the things I loved about this book was how introspective it was. You had Commander Vaughn who was looking for a sense of direction, and receiving an epiphany on the Freighter with the Orb of Memory, and his conversation with Picard afterward. You also had Ro (Which was a welcome surprise) and her conflict with Kira and how introspective that was, with Ro realizing she didn't have a place to go and DS9 was really the only Home she had. There was character conflict, but it was character conflict that made sense and added to the mythos in a very significant way, if that makes sense.

Overall though, there is one thing this book provided greater than anything else, and that was the aspect of brand new Star Trek, set in the 24th century during a time when I was excited to be a fan. I know it's not Canon, but to me that doesn't mean anything, especially now when I think we won't be getting any more 24th century prime universe stuff. Canon or not, it doesn't matter to me at all. It's brand new Star Trek, and I can't wait to dig deeper into it.
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Old April 6 2014, 05:30 PM   #29
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I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

I won't say that every single book keeps the same level of quality as Avatar, but you'll be amazed how many of them do. You have like 13 years of incredible stories to enjoy.

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I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

I won't say that every single book keeps the same level of quality as Avatar, but you'll be amazed how many of them do. You have like 13 years of incredible stories to enjoy.

Keep us posted.
I was looking at your flow chart and noticed that the order includes some of the comic books Are they really really important to this overall saga or could I scrape by without reading them? The reason I ask is because I've never been much of a comic book fan and even if I were, I'm not sure were I would get them. I just checked Itunes and they don't have them, and I'm not sure it's worth buying. Maybe in those instances I can go read the plot of them on Memory Beta and then stick with the novels.
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