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Old July 24 2014, 11:13 PM   #451
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Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

^ Red Sox/Rays. There's some genuine dislike between those two teams.
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Old July 25 2014, 04:23 AM   #452
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The Yankees/Red Sox rivalry is pretty mild these days. Red Sox/Rays is definitely a bigger deal right now.
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Old July 25 2014, 05:16 AM   #453
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Are there any good rivalries anymore besides Giants/Dodgers and Yankees/Red Sox??
I would call A's/Angels a pretty good rivalry, even though it doesn't have the recognition as the two you mentioned. Also in recent years before Texas for some reason became a bad team this year, A's/Texas were always fun, especially a couple years ago when the division came down to the final day.
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Old July 25 2014, 01:25 PM   #454
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I had to chuckle Timby at how you made fun of the Padres' anemic offense, and then they went and beat the Cubbies 8-3.
And then 13-3 last night

But Edwin Jackson had a hand cramp, so that explains it.
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Old July 25 2014, 02:37 PM   #455
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Are there any good rivalries anymore besides Giants/Dodgers and Yankees/Red Sox??
I would call A's/Angels a pretty good rivalry, even though it doesn't have the recognition as the two you mentioned. Also in recent years before Texas for some reason became a bad team this year, A's/Texas were always fun, especially a couple years ago when the division came down to the final day.
A's Texas is a good rivalry, as those teams really don't like each other.
A's/Tigers is another good rivalry, as the Tigers have ended our season too many times to count. That rivalry reminds me of the Red Sox/Yanks back in the day.
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Old July 25 2014, 03:07 PM   #456
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Are there any good rivalries anymore besides Giants/Dodgers and Yankees/Red Sox??
Cardinals / The rest of the NL Central.
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Old July 26 2014, 02:24 AM   #457
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If they want Ryan Howard (and his contract) that might be OK, but the Yankees aren't really buyers any more than the Phillies right now.
Ryan Howard might be the least tradable player in MLB. He's a replacement level player, at best, owed more money going forward than Alex Rodriguez.

If the Phillies were smart they'd simply release Howard and play whatever young talent they want to take a look at. The money owed him is a sunk cost and Ryan Howard's roster spot is a lot more valuable than his production.
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Old July 26 2014, 11:46 AM   #458
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Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

What possible advantage is there to releasing him? I know he takes up a roster spot, but you have to pay the money even if he's cut so he's at least worth it as a backup player. The best option is to agree to continue paying part of his salary and trade him to a team that will at least take some of it (ideally trade him for some kind of player or pick, but that's really secondary).

Shame, before his injury, he was such a great player. And the injury was such a freak occurrence on literally the last play of the season just as it was ending. Since the play was such an obvious ground out to first, I turned off the TV in frustration before the injury occurred and I've never seen it. Really makes me wonder what would have happened to his career had that never happened.
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Old July 26 2014, 10:45 PM   #459
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Shame, before his injury, he was such a great player. And the injury was such a freak occurrence on literally the last play of the season just as it was ending. Since the play was such an obvious ground out to first, I turned off the TV in frustration before the injury occurred and I've never seen it. Really makes me wonder what would have happened to his career had that never happened.
The sad / hilarious part is that Rube gave him that monster extension with a full two years before it was necessary (he had already signed a deal to buy out his arb years through 2011).

In other news, in one of the most egregious cases of a solution desperately in need of a problem, the Hall of Fame has announced that player eligibility for the Hall of Fame is being reduced from 15 to 10 years beginning with the next voting cycle (although Mattingly, Smith and Trammell are being grandfathered in).

Ridiculous move, though it's now even more ridiculous that those three got grandfathered in, since they're never going to make it, but they'll stick around getting 50 - 60 percent of the votes on a stacked ballot, which means that Tim Raines has only three years left on that stacked ballot and he's going to get undeservedly crushed. This also has huge ramifications for Mussina.

God, fuck the Hall of Fame / BBWAA.
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Old July 27 2014, 12:34 AM   #460
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Yeah, it never entirely made sense. Although I do feel bad for athletes who do really well and then get injured before their big payday. It's the nature of the beast and this current situation is proof that the alternative isn't much better, but it's still tough.
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Old July 27 2014, 05:00 PM   #461
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Today, we celebrate the careers of two of the greatest pitchers in history, one of the greatest hitters in history, a remarkable manager who has made ending domestic violence his life's cause, a wife-beater, and a drunk.

Curt Flood? Still a footnote in history.
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Old July 27 2014, 08:28 PM   #462
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In happier news (because I'm legitimately disgusted by Joe Torre, who has dedicated much of his adult life to ending domestic violence and is a survivor of it himself, standing next to wife-beater Bobby Cox), Greg Maddux thanked his brother for teaching him to light his farts on fire during his speech today.

I did not expect that.
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Old July 27 2014, 09:02 PM   #463
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wife-beater Bobby Cox
Got any evidence to back that up?
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Old July 27 2014, 09:16 PM   #464
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wife-beater Bobby Cox
Got any evidence to back that up?
Always.

A report filed by Gil Padilla, a Cobb County police officer, said that Cox had struck his wife before.

Pam Cox "stated this has occurred many times before, but [she] never called the police because of possible media attention" and the effect on their children, the report said.
The Cox issue went pretty similarly to the recent Ray Rice issue: His wife wouldn’t testify, "the best" prosecutors could do was pre-trial diversion.

Edit: And this isn't me hating on Torre. This is me being disgusted about Cox and him being allowed to stand on the same dais as Torre.
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Old July 27 2014, 09:23 PM   #465
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Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Alrighty then.
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