RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 141,577
Posts: 5,514,633
Members: 25,154
Currently online: 526
Newest member: MC1367

TrekToday headlines

Two New Starships Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Dec 26

Captain Kirk’s Boldest Missions
By: T'Bonz on Dec 25

Trek Paper Clips
By: T'Bonz on Dec 24

Sargent Passes
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

QMx Trek Insignia Badges
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

And The New Director Of Star Trek 3 Is…
By: T'Bonz on Dec 23

TV Alert: Pine On Tonight Show
By: T'Bonz on Dec 22

Retro Review: The Emperor’s New Cloak
By: Michelle on Dec 20

Star Trek Opera
By: T'Bonz on Dec 19

New Abrams Project
By: T'Bonz on Dec 18


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Sports and Fitness

Sports and Fitness It's football, not soccer.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old April 24 2014, 06:57 PM   #151
Santa Horrible
Tom Hendricks
 
Santa Horrible's Avatar
 
Location: Syracuse NY
View Santa Horrible's Twitter Profile
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Pine Tar is vastly different then Sunblock, Vaseline, Spit or any other kind of lubricant. Pine Tar allows you to grip the ball, especially in cold weather. It doesn't alter the characteristic of a pitch, hence why it should be legal. The others do affect the characteristic of pitches, especially Change Ups. They are used when it's warm because it gives to looser grip when you need it. Hence why those should be illegal.
__________________
Now she's here shining in the starlight, Now she's here, suddenly I know. If she's here, it's crystal clear, I'm where I'm meant to go

Of course I'm a creationist. I believe man created god.
Santa Horrible is offline  
Old April 24 2014, 07:35 PM   #152
Yanks
Fleet Captain
 
Yanks's Avatar
 
Location: NX01 Bridge
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Tom Hendricks wrote: View Post
Pine Tar is vastly different then Sunblock, Vaseline, Spit or any other kind of lubricant. Pine Tar allows you to grip the ball, especially in cold weather. It doesn't alter the characteristic of a pitch, hence why it should be legal. The others do affect the characteristic of pitches, especially Change Ups. They are used when it's warm because it gives to looser grip when you need it. Hence why those should be illegal.
They just don't use sunblock alone. They mix the provided rosin with it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/it-s-al...173953962.html

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...uchholz-style/
__________________
Mankind was born on Earth. It was never meant to die here..”
Yanks is offline  
Old April 24 2014, 09:35 PM   #153
Scout101
Admiral
 
Scout101's Avatar
 
Location: Rhode Island, USA
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Turns out we got a quick answer: 10 game suspension, starts tonight. No mention of any fines, but fines in MLB are a joke, so even they gave one, it would be the equivalent of half a stadium hot dog.

See if this blows up into more people asking to check pitchers, or if it just quiets down because he broke the unspoken rule: everyone is cheating a little here, but don't be the asshole that's blatant about it. If you force us to notice, you'll get busted.
__________________
Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey
STO: @JScout33
Scout101 is offline  
Old April 25 2014, 01:50 PM   #154
Ar-Pharazon
Rear Admiral
 
Ar-Pharazon's Avatar
 
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Does anyone think pitchers should get suspensions that are a number of starts, rather than games?

Assuming it's a SP of course.
__________________
Rimmer, on what period of history to live in-
“Well, It’d be the 19th century for me, one of Napoleon’s marshals.
The chance to march across Europe with the greatest general of all time and kill Belgians” - (White Hole).
Ar-Pharazon is offline  
Old April 25 2014, 03:49 PM   #155
Alidar Jarok
Everything in moderation but moderation
 
Alidar Jarok's Avatar
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Difficult to enforce, though. They'll just make their "starts" closer together or move them to the Bullpen so they're an "everyday pitcher." Since, by definition, they're not playing, it's pretty easy to make up all sorts of shit that they "would have" done during those days. However, I do think the number of games suspended should probably take that into account. A 10 game suspension is the equivalent of a two game suspension for a position player. Is that sufficient? If not, they should make it more.
__________________
When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans
Alidar Jarok is offline  
Old April 25 2014, 04:37 PM   #156
Timby
GIVE ME YOUR FACE
 
Timby's Avatar
 
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Alidar Jarok wrote: View Post
If not, they should make it more.
They'd need to adjust the official rules, then. Rule 8.02:

PENALTY: For violation of any part of Rules 8.02(a)(2) through (6)
(a) the pitcher shall be ejected immediately from the game and shall be suspended automatically. In National Association Leagues, the automatic suspension shall be for 10 games.
Timby is offline  
Old April 26 2014, 02:05 AM   #157
Poinsettia
Commodore
 
Poinsettia's Avatar
 
Location: Hanging around
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

BJ Upton sporting specks now. Tuned in and didn't recognize him.
__________________
~Pondwater

...Close my eyes, it's three in the afternoon...
Poinsettia is offline  
Old April 26 2014, 03:15 AM   #158
Alidar Jarok
Everything in moderation but moderation
 
Alidar Jarok's Avatar
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Timby wrote: View Post
Alidar Jarok wrote: View Post
If not, they should make it more.
They'd need to adjust the official rules, then. Rule 8.02:

PENALTY: For violation of any part of Rules 8.02(a)(2) through (6)
(a) the pitcher shall be ejected immediately from the game and shall be suspended automatically. In National Association Leagues, the automatic suspension shall be for 10 games.
Since that rule is a pitcher rule, does it already take into account that they're not every day players?
__________________
When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans
Alidar Jarok is offline  
Old April 26 2014, 05:05 PM   #159
Pegaritaville
Vice Admiral
 
Pegaritaville's Avatar
 
Location: On the 'Croix
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Ar-Pharazon wrote: View Post
Does anyone think pitchers should get suspensions that are a number of starts, rather than games?

Assuming it's a SP of course.
Yeah, for SPs, suspensions often seem a little lenient. Pindeda will basically only miss one start. I have him on my fantasy team so in this case I'm okay with that.
Pegaritaville is offline  
Old April 27 2014, 03:43 AM   #160
Jedi_Master
Rear Admiral
 
Jedi_Master's Avatar
 
Location: Writing nuTrek III
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Does anyone have a decent bullpen for sale?

Oakland would be 20- 4 if they could find someone to help them close out a freaking game! Its killing me watching them in the late innings.
Jedi_Master is offline  
Old April 27 2014, 06:21 AM   #161
Alidar Jarok
Everything in moderation but moderation
 
Alidar Jarok's Avatar
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

You want Papplebon?
__________________
When on Romulus, Do as the Romulans
Alidar Jarok is offline  
Old April 27 2014, 03:28 PM   #162
Danny99
Vice Admiral
 
Danny99's Avatar
 
Location: Cookstown, Ontario, Canada
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Brendan Morrow has no hits, but eight walks against him by the mid third. Gibbons pulls him after he loads the bases and walks in a run and then the reliever gives up a grand slam on the second pitch.

If this team isn't going to fire Gibbons, at least fire the pitching coaching Pete Walker. This team has just brutal pitching that just hangs them out to dry most nights.
__________________
The poster previously known as canadaboy_32
Danny99 is offline  
Old April 27 2014, 04:32 PM   #163
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
Red nosed and loving it
 
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer's Avatar
 
Location: Getting Captain Ice on to the naughty list
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Jedi_Master wrote: View Post
Does anyone have a decent bullpen for sale?

Oakland would be 20- 4 if they could find someone to help them close out a freaking game! Its killing me watching them in the late innings.
Arizona does. Problem is that they're using them as the starting rotation. 7 and 18 is not a good start to this season and does not bode well.
__________________
Captain Ice is now Captain Stoned. - KM
You are too straight to be a floral designer. - da Bunny

RIP Dad Apr 22, 1942 - Dec 2, 2011

Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer is offline  
Old April 27 2014, 06:01 PM   #164
Timby
GIVE ME YOUR FACE
 
Timby's Avatar
 
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Danny99 wrote: View Post
Brendan Morrow has no hits, but eight walks against him by the mid third. Gibbons pulls him after he loads the bases and walks in a run and then the reliever gives up a grand slam on the second pitch.
He was unhittable, though!
Timby is offline  
Old April 28 2014, 04:34 AM   #165
FelizNavidad
Admiral
 
FelizNavidad's Avatar
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA
View FelizNavidad's Twitter Profile
Re: 2014 MLB Season: How Many Pitchers Will Die For Our Sins?

Happy to see the Giants have a nice weekend. I'm getting a little concerned that Belt isn't hitting, but I thought his defense at first this weekend was steller. Heck, even Crawford and Hicks were great this weekend in terms of defense, something I remember was lacking last year. Also nice to see Posey get some nice hits and a home run yesterday. It seems like the hoopla around Posey has kind of died down some so it's nice to just see him go out there, play catcher really well (And this year he really is playing the position really well) and not be surrounded by the MVP hype.

It's also nice when the Dodgers have a losing weekend, even though it's too early to be looking at the standings. Now it's back to playing the National League west for a few games, something I'm actually getting a little annoyed by. Looking forward to the games in Atlanta and Pittsburgh, which it seems like this is really early for the Giants to be going to those two cities. At least it won't be hot as hell and I don't know what the weather is like in Pittsburgh these days but I remember it always Raining at least a day when the Giants are there.
__________________
Twitter

sjsharksfan39
FelizNavidad is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
may the force be with you

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:24 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.