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Old April 4 2014, 11:03 AM   #31
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I gave it an excellent. Great expansion of the MCU and a genuine game-changer.

There was one sequence lifted straight out of the comics and it was perfect...



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Old April 4 2014, 11:48 AM   #32
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Bucky got his brains back from Cap making a wish with a Cosmic Cube.

Rule of Thumb is that the cube in the Movies is the Tesseract, which is also an Infinity "Stone" but lets not confuse things.
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Old April 4 2014, 01:29 PM   #33
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Marvel's Agents of H.A.M.M.E.R.

**Fingers Crossed**
Maybe.

I think that TWS should, and hopefully will have, as much impact on AoS as Avengers-movie had.

Even if new SHIELD is established to keep name alive in the franchise it should still broaden storylines for AoS. Instead of just examining alien artifacts they can also hunt down HYDRA agents and other corrupted SHIELD agents. And maybe they need to survive with lesser resources and backup.
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Old April 4 2014, 04:23 PM   #34
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- So I guess Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is only one season then?
It's possible AoS was always a fakeout and Marvel and ABC weren't planning to continue after one season. With the ratings as they are, maybe that's not a bad thing.
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Old April 4 2014, 08:35 PM   #35
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I'm surprised this hasn't been started yet. It's out in the UK now; I saw a midnight showing last night. While my review is spoiler-free I'm sure this thread will be filled with spoilers before too long so enter at your own peril.

Here's a link to my review but overall I thought it was great. It was everything I hoped for and more. The action was awesome, the character dynamics were excellent and the story was really engrossing. I'm interested to see what the implications are for the rest of the Marvel properties.

So who else has seen it?
Saw it last night (Scotiabank Theater, Toronto, 11:00 PM) and though that it was amazing. I especially liked the epilogue that introduced



How will mankind deal with Ultron now that
And how does this affect other things in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
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Old April 4 2014, 08:41 PM   #36
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How will mankind deal with Ultron now that
And how does this affect other things in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
Well:



Believe me, that's going to make a fucking dent.
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Old April 4 2014, 08:59 PM   #37
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Old April 4 2014, 09:05 PM   #38
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^That didn't quite work

Anyway:

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Old April 4 2014, 09:07 PM   #39
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I know, sorry peeps. I just saw the movie and I don't recall any lines mentioning that. Just the new propulsion.
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I know, sorry peeps. I just saw the movie and I don't recall any lines mentioning that. Just the new propulsion.
Yup, and that's the iffy bit. He mentions that Tony has been having a good look at their own turbines. I don't know if that's a rather cruel joke at Tony nearly dying in them or that he's been contracted to actually work on them properly since he has literally all their secrets on them.
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How will mankind deal with Ultron now that
And how does this affect other things in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
Well:



Believe me, that's going to make a fucking dent.
It will indeed.

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I'm sure Fury has all sorts of favors he could call in.
Since this movie was more or less Nick Fury Vs. SHIELD, it can be assumed that Fury will build back the organization under his control and it will be run his way.
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Old April 4 2014, 09:19 PM   #42
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Stephen Strange is a threat. File under Long-Term Teasers.

When the DVD is released, we'll want to zoom in on some of the names that popped up when the Helicarriers began targeting. I could not read them fast enough in the theater. Were any names familiar?
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Old April 4 2014, 09:19 PM   #43
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SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY (how can this whole thread not be a spoiler thread?!?)

I voted excellent.

I'm going to give it a couple of relatively small dings, because I didn't like some of the battle tactics.

For example, Bucky should have kept Cap's shield when he caught it at first. Vibranium is a very rare thing. In general, I didn't like how Cap was always embedding his shield in something, but still managed to get it back in the end.

Another problem I had was how the Falcon's wings folded up so tiny. I realize Stark tech does that, but still. I also sorta rolled eyes at the seeming coincidence of his being the Falcon in the first place, yet Cap running with him in the beginning.

But these are minor quibbles that don't hurt the film overall. The Falcon, especially, provided levity (ha ha, no pun intended, honest) in what was very serious material. Fury's car chase scene was excellent, as was the SHIELD vs SHIELD/HYDRA stuff. The reveal in the bunker was sweet, but Natasha and Steve were slow on the uptake that they were likely in jeopardy there. The flirtation between them was quite entertaining.

But, the important part, the overall premise of sacrificing freedom for security was brilliant and quite timely. I really hope the film is well-received and, especially, widely viewed. It exceeded my expectations.

The Dr. Strange name drop, and the mid-credit scene with Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch were mega-awesome.

Don't forget there is both a mid-credit and a post-credit scene.
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Old April 4 2014, 09:30 PM   #44
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Speaking of Easter Eggs . . . I'd somehow missed that Batroc the Leaper was in the movie. Very cool!
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Old April 4 2014, 09:53 PM   #45
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Excellent, 2 thumbs up, A+

The film is big in scope and excels at moving development along while also delving into the past to do so. While IM3 and TDW were good films in their own way they felt very solo...and that's not a bad thing. I enjoyed the solo turn just as I would if it were a comic.

What Cap:TWS did was not only feel like a solo film, especially when he's treated as public enemy number one, but felt like a mini-teamup film with Sam&Natasha.

-Excellent use of Haley Atwell as Peggy Carter and in various ways. Nice Howard Stark, Col.Philips and the Howling Commandos via the exhibit. Which leads to a nice Stan Lee cameo!

-Stephen Strange mention, which all but alludes to the fact he's operating if he's on Hydra's radar. He just hasn't crossed paths with SHIELD per se.

-Sam Wilson feels like he's more developed than either Rhodes or Barton right now. A solid introduction for Falcon. "Don't look at me, I do what he does, only slower."

-Maria Hill, when she turned back up and was a big part of Act 3 I admit I didn't see that coming.

-Arnim Zola, well played, did not see that coming.

-I never believed Fury dead but really thought his return would be AoU. Which leads me to his gravestone. I about lost it when I saw "The path of the righteous man...." Ezk 25:17 on that headstone. I feel like, depending on how AoU plays out, that this sets Nick up for an operation like the Secret Weapons title that ran for 3-4yrs in the mid '00s where he's running a covert SHIELD team and Maria Hill is made Director in his place.

-I felt they set up Sharon Carter as a capable agent, attracted to Steve but really left plenty of mystery about her.

-Having digested the film I'm pleased with how they handled Sebastian Stan as Winter Soldier. I'll admit that while watching it I kept waiting for his backstory to unfold. They gave the audience pieces and it's clear from that END CREDITS portion they plan to revisit him later and allow us to catch up with after he's learned things at his own pace via unadulterated means.

-Black Widow, I feel it will essentially be a criminal shame if Marvel Studios does not give us a BW solo film now. But especially after AoU. They have given her lots of attention now to the point the audience knows her enough to want to check out a solo tale. The breadcrumbs are just too enticing to now want to follow. Mix in some Hawkeye and score. Just don't make it a $150m budget film and it's got modest success written all over it.

-I honestly thought Robert Redford's Pierce would fade away early and the focus would be Winter Soldier. Boy was I surprised at how integral and involved in this film he was and he showed just why he's Hollywood Royalty. He commanded every scene he was in. He and SLJ playing off one another was fun to watch!


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- This movie does feel like part of a series rather than a movie in its own right. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just an observation. As such though, they've had to skip over Rogers getting used to life in the 21st century which feels like a missed opportunity.
While true they didn't focus on that it's made clear in dialogue and especially that notebook that Steve is making a list of "cool things", as they are brought to his attention like Marvin Gaye, that he should check out. His little joke about the internet being really helpful was a mildly humorous line.

As for AGENTS OF SHIELD
While no direct dialogue is made about the show or it's main characters and no visual cameos made the impact is there as it applies to shows story with the Clairvoyant.
It's all but clear that the Clairvoyant is indeed a SHIELD person but really a HYDRA sympathizer posing as SHIELD loyal.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Arnim Zola isn't the Clairvoyant. A line in the film states, paraphrase, that a system was created to analyze data to project what a future outcome would be. This could be Zola. Given how Zola was portrayed you might could even get away with Toby Jones just doing the voice. Easy payday.
I am disappointed that Agent Jasper Sitwell appears to be a HYDRA sympathizer...but we'll see. He's appeared several times this season so his appearance here ties back.


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