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Old March 26 2014, 11:27 AM   #31
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Re: Catholics, What Are You Giving Up for Lent?

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Don't know yet what I'll do this year. Tourguide for blind people through the regional flower show, propably. Or interpretor for foreign visitors.
Outstanding!
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Old March 26 2014, 01:38 PM   #32
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Re: Catholics, What Are You Giving Up for Lent?

you're pulling my leg, right?? But if you think of it, it's not actually such a weird or superficial idea as you might believe at the first glance.

When you hear "flower" you naturally first think "colours". But flowers have far more to offer and humans have more than just one sense. Many plants have an interesting feel: furry, crisp, rough, silky, ridged, smooth. Others have an interesting scent. Some plants even have cool sounds! Have you ever knocked on a marrow or a melon? They sound cool! If you take the right approach and give it a little thought, you can make a flower show a fun and exciting event for blind people. My auntie was blind (and an excellent gardener!) and so I have a fairly good idea of what I am dealing with.

As for the interpretor thing: this is a tiny country town. There simply are no professional translators. Most people here aren't even able to speak High German. The flower show is badly organized and has not even a flyer in English. As I live just across the street from the show and speak several languages, why shouldn't I employ my talents to help others?

Both are perhaps not particularly Christian but they are helpful. As little Lord Fauntleroy said: everyone should try to make the world a tiny bit better with their lives.
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Old March 26 2014, 11:51 PM   #33
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Re: Catholics, What Are You Giving Up for Lent?

I don't think he's pulling your leg, I think he's saying service acts are great.

Both are perhaps not particularly Christian
What is particularly christian?
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Old March 27 2014, 12:54 AM   #34
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God and I have barely been on speaking terms for years, so my Lenten project is to pray -- if only for a couple minutes -- every day. I'm probably remembering two out of three days so far.
I can't imagine a world without God. I wouldn't want to. It goes without saying that spirituality is an important part of the Human Condition. If you've ever gotten something out of exploring it, or believe you ever could receive something from it, then it would be a mistake to not try to return to it. I'm glad you've made it your "Lenten Project." I hope that you're successful.
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Old March 27 2014, 12:59 AM   #35
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Why should we do all the work? If God has something to say he can bloody well say it.
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Old March 27 2014, 01:02 AM   #36
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I don't think he's pulling your leg, I think he's saying service acts are great.
Quite.
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Old March 27 2014, 01:05 AM   #37
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Why should we do all the work? If God has something to say he can bloody well say it.
A guy who doesn't do anything shouldn't be demanding anything either.
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Old March 27 2014, 01:37 AM   #38
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See I think the resounding silence works just fine if God is a universal force, a divine impulse, a spiritual dimension or some other newagey thing. But the christian god is supposed to be a "personal god" that you have a relationship with. And yet, he says so little. People expend a lot of time and emotional energy praying and reading the bible and feeling bad about not praying and trying harder.. and yet all they can show for it is:

a. possibly some mental discipline
b. good serotonin levels or whatevs .. same brain chem result as you get with meditation techniques
c. on occasion they have a strong feeling about something that they can ascribe to God and then feel better about acting on that particular feeling

For a personal God he is a REALLY bad friend. Seriously I have more interaction and direct relationship going on with the girl who makes my coffee every morning.
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Old March 27 2014, 03:01 AM   #39
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During Lent my parish does a series of "Lenten lunches" in which we have a community meal every Wednesday noon, followed by a brief talk or meditation by a guest speaker. Today's speaker, a priest an hour distant, said he was abstaining from Lent this year, and then described what he was doing instead. His goals (getting over himself, being more joyful, learning to live more simply) sounded like Lenten goals, but he was trying to separate them from the Great Expectations that come with Lent. He likened his approach to 'spring training' for living a Christian life throughout the rest of the year.
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Old March 27 2014, 09:26 AM   #40
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I don't think he's pulling your leg, I think he's saying service acts are great.
Ah, thank you for explaining, {{{teacake}}}. It's very difficult to detect undercurrents in a foreign language and since both jobs are quite easy and fun to do I was not certain whether it was a serious or joking remark.


Being more joyful is quite a high goal! It's very hard to change one's personality.
I can only speak for myself but I find it generally easier to break down such big tasks into smaller ones I can hadle one at a time. I'd try to be joyful once a day, for a start.
Still, I like that priest's ideas he sounds like a very interesting person to meet
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Old March 27 2014, 09:53 AM   #41
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I can't be effed with all this self improvement.
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Old March 27 2014, 11:02 AM   #42
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very much off-topic, I'm afraid: what does "effed" mean? Can find it in no dictionary nor online. (Or is it a word that an elderly lady should rather not know? )
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Old March 27 2014, 12:29 PM   #43
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During Lent my parish does a series of "Lenten lunches" in which we have a community meal every Wednesday noon, followed by a brief talk or meditation by a guest speaker. Today's speaker, a priest an hour distant, said he was abstaining from Lent this year, and then described what he was doing instead. His goals (getting over himself, being more joyful, learning to live more simply) sounded like Lenten goals, but he was trying to separate them from the Great Expectations that come with Lent. He likened his approach to 'spring training' for living a Christian life throughout the rest of the year.
Following the Spirit of the Law, rather than bowing to the Letter of the Law is one of Christ's messages, in the Bible. This is a good case in point. The Time of Lent can inspire people to do great things, instead of just being concerned with honoring the tradition of doing without something that season.

As an aside, a delegation including my city's Mayor and Pennsylvania's Governor, among others, went to the Vatican to invite the Holy See to visit the city when the Philadelphia Archdiocese hosts the Eighth World Meeting of Families, a Vatican-sponsored gathering expected to draw hundreds of thousands here, in 2015. I am very hopeful about this, as are many in The City of Brotherly Love.
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Old March 27 2014, 01:44 PM   #44
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Why should we do all the work? If God has something to say he can bloody well say it.
I am an American here in the U.A.E., and to put Islam in it's simplest terms, Allah is only concerned with ones worship and devotion...there is no two-way street, and you could describe the relationship as impersonal...only worship and devotion on the part of the Muslim...one absoLUTely does all the work as you refer to above...my faith is also very simple...I make God laugh, and he cuts me a break from time to time...no joke...I KNOW he is checking me out, laughing his ass off, and that makes me feel very good...I do not know from Lent, but I do know God...
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very much off-topic, I'm afraid: what does "effed" mean? Can find it in no dictionary nor online. (Or is it a word that an elderly lady should rather not know? )
Fucked.
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