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Old September 7 2014, 05:34 PM   #1
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Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

I seem to notice that an overwhelming amount of the interest in the Lit forum revolves around the fiction aspect of Trek, which is great. I *love* reading the continuing adventures of Trek.

But I noticed that most of my non-fiction Trek threads kinda get ignored or have minimal interaction.

Normally, I don't mind if a topic doesn't take off. Hey, it happens!

But I noticed a pattern that it's mainly non-fiction Trek threads that get tossed aside.

I guess it could be that many of the topics I've brought up are "old topics" that have been covered in detail way before I joined this community. After all, all the books that I've read this year have been out for years.

But I'm also wondering if maybe there's not a lot of interest?

(The exception being Herb Solow and Bob Justman's book and the upcoming Return to Tomorrow book.)

Does anyone here read the biographies, making of books and the like?
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Old September 7 2014, 06:29 PM   #2
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

I have always enjoyed the reference books. I tore through the Star Trek Compendium back in the mid 80s. Same goes for first editions of the TNG Companion, TNG Technical Manual, and ST Chronology. I slowed down during the 90s, but still picked picked up the DS9 Companion and Voyages Of The Imagination.

Lately I've been picking up some of the books that I skipped and fortunately they can be found at bargain prices these days. I picked up The Making Of DS9 and the hardcover Art Of Star Trek for only a couple of dollars each. Unfortunately the DS9 Technical Manual and the Star Charts are a bit pricey in good condition.

I've never been very interested in actor biographies, but I do have Shatner's Memories books in audio form and really enjoyed them.
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Old September 7 2014, 07:07 PM   #3
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

Yup, I love the non-fiction books. My latest to be received was this:

http://www.amazon.com/New-Life-Civil...+civilizations

and I have this one coming in October:

http://creaturefeatures.com/shop/boo...urntotomorrow/
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Old September 7 2014, 08:01 PM   #4
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

I'm looking forward to The Fifty Year Mission by Mark A. Altman and Edward Gross in 2016.
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Old September 7 2014, 08:09 PM   #5
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

I have an extensive collection of Trek non-fiction, and recently picked up The Klingon Art of War. But I imagine that non-fiction is harder to have a conversation about since there's no actual plot to pick apart and discuss. "Ohmigod, I can't believe that Sisko violated the Prime Directive like that--and what does this say about Klingon-Romulan relations?"

Not a lack of an interest, then, but perhaps less likely to stimulate lots of debate and discussion.
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Old September 7 2014, 08:58 PM   #6
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

I've been reading almost purely Trek non-fiction this year.

Off the top of my head, I've read:

1-3) The 3 main Roddenberry biographies (by David Alexander, Joel Engel, and Yvonne Fern)

4) Inside Trek by Susan Sackett
5) The Making of Star Trek (Whitfield & Roddenberry)
6) The Making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture
7) The Making of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

8) Captain's Log: William Shatner's Personal Account of The Making of Star Trek V

9) Inside Star Trek by Solow and Justman
10) Chekov's Enteprise
11) The Longest Trek by Grace Lee Whitney.
12) Nick Meyer's autobiography
13) From Sawdust to Stardust (De Kelley's biography)
14) I Am Not Spock
15) I Am Spock

Not to mention, I've listened to Shatner's audiobooks "Star Trek Memories and Movie Memories" for the umpteenth time, though I've read the actual books as well in years past.

Years ago, I did read Takei's "To The Stars", and wondered why he made no mention of his love life. It was still a good biography. I've also heard/read Shatner's "Get a Life" and listened to Shatner's autobiography "Up Until Now".
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Old September 7 2014, 09:03 PM   #7
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

I've never read any of the actors' books, but I have just about all of the compendia and tech books from over the years, the chronology, etc....
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Old September 7 2014, 09:15 PM   #8
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

EnriqueH wrote: View Post
I seem to notice that an overwhelming amount of the interest in the Lit forum revolves around the fiction aspect of Trek, which is great. I *love* reading the continuing adventures of Trek.

But I noticed that most of my non-fiction Trek threads kinda get ignored or have minimal interaction.

Normally, I don't mind if a topic doesn't take off. Hey, it happens!

But I noticed a pattern that it's mainly non-fiction Trek threads that get tossed aside.

I guess it could be that many of the topics I've brought up are "old topics" that have been covered in detail way before I joined this community. After all, all the books that I've read this year have been out for years.

But I'm also wondering if maybe there's not a lot of interest?

(The exception being Herb Solow and Bob Justman's book and the upcoming Return to Tomorrow book.)

Does anyone here read the biographies, making of books and the like?
Absolutely!

In addition to the 'making of' books and autobiographies, there are three books that I really enjoyed: On the Good Ship Enterprise (Bjo Trimble), The Making of the Trek Conventions (Joan Winston), and Star Trek Lives! (Jacqueline Lichtenberg, Sondra Marshak, and Joan Winston).
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Old September 7 2014, 09:51 PM   #9
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

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EnriqueH wrote: View Post
I seem to notice that an overwhelming amount of the interest in the Lit forum revolves around the fiction aspect of Trek, which is great. I *love* reading the continuing adventures of Trek.

But I noticed that most of my non-fiction Trek threads kinda get ignored or have minimal interaction.

Normally, I don't mind if a topic doesn't take off. Hey, it happens!

But I noticed a pattern that it's mainly non-fiction Trek threads that get tossed aside.

I guess it could be that many of the topics I've brought up are "old topics" that have been covered in detail way before I joined this community. After all, all the books that I've read this year have been out for years.

But I'm also wondering if maybe there's not a lot of interest?

(The exception being Herb Solow and Bob Justman's book and the upcoming Return to Tomorrow book.)

Does anyone here read the biographies, making of books and the like?
Absolutely!

In addition to the 'making of' books and autobiographies, there are three books that I really enjoyed: On the Good Ship Enterprise (Bjo Trimble), The Making of the Trek Conventions (Joan Winston), and Star Trek Lives! (Jacqueline Lichtenberg, Sondra Marshak, and Joan Winston).
I have those 3 books sitting side by side on my shelf. I have to read them soon. I'm really curious about those because they're fan based.
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Old September 7 2014, 09:55 PM   #10
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I've never read any of the actors' books, but I have just about all of the compendia and tech books from over the years, the chronology, etc....
Same here. More ships, the better.
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Old September 7 2014, 10:09 PM   #11
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

I have fond memories of the TOS Compendium, the TNG Companion, Making of Star Trek, Phase II: The Lost Series, Inside Star Trek, A Vision of the Future: The Making of Star Trek Voyager and Voyages of Imagination. Most recently in Trek nonfiction, I read and thoroughly enjoyed Joan Marie Verba's Boldly Writing, a free eBook about the rise of Trek fanzines.

I keep meaning to read Star Trek Lives.
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Old September 7 2014, 10:30 PM   #12
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

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I'm looking forward to The Fifty Year Mission by Mark A. Altman and Edward Gross in 2016.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but were Altman and Gross involved with Hal Schuster and James Van Hise? Or am I mixed up?
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Old September 7 2014, 10:41 PM   #13
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Altman was a correspondent for Cinefantastique and Gross for Starlog, as I recall. I don't suppose that would preclude them writing for Schuster's publications, though.
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Old September 7 2014, 11:35 PM   #14
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Re: Does anyone here care about Trek non-fiction?

Altman had pretty much crossed over to his own publication (Sci-Fi Universe; the Larry Flynt-published version, that is) by the time he and Gross put out their Captain's Logs books and other entries, but I'm intrigued about their 50th anniversary book that's in the pipeline.

Hopefully it'll contain new reporting, with only some recycled content from their previous books (which, to be fair, were pretty comprehensive in their own right).
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Old September 8 2014, 12:09 AM   #15
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I forgot about the 365 books. I recently picked up copies of each (TOS and TNG) for a reasonable fee. They are nice alternatives to the old companion books.
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