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Old April 9 2014, 02:48 PM   #46
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Re: Favorite non-canon ship

Probert's version of the Enterprise-C is certainly the more elegant, but the version shown in "Yesterday's Enterprise" is by definition the canonical version of the ship.

I suppose my favorite non-canon ship is the Phase II Enterprise designed by Matt Jefferies.
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Old April 9 2014, 02:54 PM   #47
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I suppose my favorite non-canon ship is the Phase II Enterprise designed by Matt Jefferies.
Good call, I love that design as well. It has some very interesting design elements and a great overall look.
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Old April 9 2014, 03:22 PM   #48
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Probert's version of the Enterprise-C is certainly the more elegant, but the version shown in "Yesterday's Enterprise" is by definition the canonical version of the ship.
Provided that screenplay writer and director of the episode did not relocate events from a changed time line (of our universe) into a parallel universe with "Redemption II", I'd agree.

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Old April 9 2014, 05:25 PM   #49
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Re: Favorite non-canon ship

Another fave of mine is the Federation-Klingon hybrid Qapla' class cruiser USS Khai Tam from the fan-pub USS Khai Tam Technical Orientation Manual: http://www.shipschematics.net/startr...er_khaitam.jpg
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Old April 9 2014, 06:31 PM   #50
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Old April 9 2014, 09:35 PM   #51
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Re: Favorite non-canon ship

The Phase 2 Enterprise's pylons always looked incomplete to me, in that the lines suddenly took a 45 degree turn up near the nacelles.

Other than that, it represented a far more believable "upgrade" to the original TOS-E
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Old April 10 2014, 12:44 AM   #52
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Re: Favorite non-canon ship

For me, it'd be the Archer-class scout from the Vanguard novels. Plucky little ship.
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Old April 10 2014, 07:43 AM   #53
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The Phase 2 Enterprise's pylons always looked incomplete to me, in that the lines suddenly took a 45 degree turn up near the nacelles.
See, that´s one of the small details I really do like

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Other than that, it represented a far more believable "upgrade" to the original TOS-E
I´m a bit torn actually. The Phase-II-E is a lot closer designwise to the TOS-E than the TMP-E is, of course. In-universe, we don´t know what kind of refits or upgrades are normal in the 23rd century. But when I compare it to real ships, there have been a number of pre-WWI battleships for instance, that have been rebuilt und upgraded to such a degree that they looked like completely different ships in the end.

So I can easily live with Andrew Probert´s beautiful design for the TMP-E

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Old April 11 2014, 12:29 AM   #54
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Re: Favorite non-canon ship

Here is another shot of my favorite TNG NCC (Non Canon Craft), this time with a starfield background, I'm really excited:



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Now, with the starfield background I'm starting to wonder when to realistically expect one of those Romulan warbirds near Narendra III to uncloak and open fire.

Which brings up an interesting question, I think: Did these Romulan warbirds look like the ones first encountered 20 years later in "The Neutral Zone" or did the Romulan warbirds of 2344 look differently / non-canon?

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Re: Favorite non-canon ship

The 90s computer game Star Trek: New Worlds had a design for a TMP-era Romulan warbird in it's intro video (the Melak), though I think it looks more appropriate for the 24th century rather than the 23rd. I could easily see a couple of these slugging it out with the Ent-C.

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Old April 11 2014, 06:51 AM   #56
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@ Bob:

Another amazing picture of a beautiful design, thanks BTW, good thing we finally know what "NCC" stands for

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Old April 11 2014, 10:44 AM   #57
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@ Mario de Monti

You are welcome. Yes, "deciphering" these acronyms can be fun some times.

@ Herkimer Jetty

Cool! I'd also think this warbird variation to be closer to the 24th than he 23rd Century. The one thing I can't wrap my head around is the head section.

It looks more like a helmet than the head of a bird, but it surely is a very interesting variation of the Probert design (maybe I'm influenced by retroactive nuBSG thinking where Cylon helmets had become the bow of Cylon vessels).

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Old April 11 2014, 11:59 AM   #58
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It looks more like a helmet than the head of a bird, but it surely is a very interesting variation of the Probert design (maybe I'm influenced by retroactive nuBSG thinking where Cylon helmets had become the bow of Cylon vessels).
THAT´S why it looks so familiar!!!
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Old April 11 2014, 09:30 PM   #59
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Re: Favorite non-canon ship

Herkimer Jitty wrote: View Post
The 90s computer game Star Trek: New Worlds had a design for a TMP-era Romulan warbird in it's intro video (the Melak), though I think it looks more appropriate for the 24th century rather than the 23rd. I could easily see a couple of these slugging it out with the Ent-C.

That looks pretty cool.

I remember one TOS (actually I think it was movie era - it was in an alternate timeline which took place concurrently with ST VI) which featured what looked like a TNG-era Warbird, but with the head and neck of a K't'inga awkwardly stuck onto it. One of the ugliest Romulan ships I'd ever seen. Thank God it was just an alt-timeline.
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Old April 11 2014, 10:48 PM   #60
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I like the USS Aventine, a Vesta-class ship.
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