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Old March 9 2014, 10:11 PM   #16
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

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I think if a Star Trek series is to survive in the current TV landscape, it will need an ongoing serialized story, rather then being purely episodic.
Which is plain wrong since there are popular episodic dramas currently on the air.

As for "WarTrek"? God no.
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Old March 10 2014, 03:13 AM   #17
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

I prefer serial, but I'd be happy with episodic too! Or a hybrid like DS9. Doesn't matter either way as long as it's written well.
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Old March 10 2014, 06:02 AM   #18
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

...or, have the überstory reflect the kinds of realities going on now (Venezuala, Sudan, Crimea, Syria, etc.) as a vehicle to tell/backtell the embryo and birth/growth of the Federation...conflicts and crises but solutions and successes...

...and maybe Scott Bakula is not too old to play his part as the First UFP president...
...or Alfre Woodard...
...or maybe Martin Sheen.
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Old March 10 2014, 02:20 PM   #19
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War? Huh? What is it good for?

Another pass for this underhanded suggestion of a DS9 remake.
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Old March 10 2014, 05:19 PM   #20
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[QUOTE=anh165;9342361]War? Huh? What is it good for?

"...Absolutely nuthin'...say it agin...ooooo, WAR!!!..."
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Old March 10 2014, 05:42 PM   #21
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

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War? Huh? What is it good for?
"...Absolutely nuthin'...say it agin...ooooo, WAR!!!..."
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Old March 10 2014, 06:18 PM   #22
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

If we want Trek to be allegorical, we'd also have to consider that the nature and definition of war has changed. Rather, pockets of humanity seem kinda bent on trying to commit the most atrocities without declaring such a label -- the same reason why the nations these days tend to use the word "conflict" or "engagement" rather than the term war itself whenever it can. Things like genocide and slave trading and resource rights and drug massacres and terrorism and territorial disputes still happen, don't get me wrong, but it's as if countries are trying to do the bare minimum and in many ways, that's just as if not more insidious than war itself.

With that said, I'm really reminded of a lot of TNG episodes that focused on such disputes, where the crew would have an episode that involved decades or even centuries of war on a planet or two and would need to intervene. Picard would try his diplomatic best to find a solution, Worf and Riker would be ready for combat at a moment's notice, Crusher would brace for the worst. And to me, that kind of attention to localized conflict seems really more relatable than just outright declaring war for the sake of onscreen violence. A Star Trek equivalent of a World War is one thing, but in the real world, individual countries have their own struggles and they shouldn't be overlooked, either.

I liked the Dominion War as a whole, but I wish some of the smaller nations were explored -- those who decided to fight, those who joined the Romulans in remaining neutral (at least from the start), those who joined the Dominion. I'm sure they all had their own individual reasons for their roles in the war, and they're probably deep, emotional reasons. That's good for a story or two.
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Old March 11 2014, 01:26 AM   #23
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

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I think if a Star Trek series is to survive in the current TV landscape, it will need an ongoing serialized story, rather then being purely episodic.
Which is plain wrong since there are popular episodic dramas currently on the air.
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And how many of those are as good as the serialized TV shows on cable?

How many people say NCIS is on the same of level of story telling as Breaking Bad? How much of these episodic TV dramas on the networks are just mindless comfort food compared to the real meat we see on cable?

When people talk about this being the golden age of television, they are talking about the great serialized dramas on cable, not the stuff on the networks. Not having a serialized story at this point, means Star Trek is not taking full advantage of what the medium of television can do in terms of story. I think increasing episodic television is the way of the past and serialized television is the way of the future.
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Old March 11 2014, 02:35 AM   #24
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

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War? Huh? What is it good for?
"...Absolutely nuthin'...say it agin...ooooo, WAR!!!..."
Good god, y'all!
"...what is it good for, absolutely..."
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Old March 11 2014, 03:07 AM   #25
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"...Absolutely nuthin'...say it agin...ooooo, WAR!!!..."
Good god, y'all!
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War is good for business.



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Old March 11 2014, 03:37 AM   #26
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

I wouldn't mind seeing a major war that erupts in a story arc that may span a couple of episodes, but definitely not to the extent that it was in DS9. And even then, it shouldn't be something that's indicative of the entire series.
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Old March 11 2014, 07:37 AM   #27
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Old March 11 2014, 09:49 AM   #28
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

War is all action and battles and glory and honour and sacrifice--which has been done in Trek and loads of other TV shows.

I think the next series should be set after a war, where the focus is on rebuilding planets, ships, relationships; dealing with the fallout of conflict, the devastated aggressor having to accept help from their adversary for help, the tensions that causes between and among both sides.

Its not the big flashy NuTrek-esque style, but the hard work, dedictation and resiliency of the characters that drive storylines and plot, making it a series of substance.
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Old March 11 2014, 01:30 PM   #29
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War is all action and battles and glory and honour and sacrifice--which has been done in Trek and loads of other TV shows.

I think the next series should be set after a war, where the focus is on rebuilding planets, ships, relationships; dealing with the fallout of conflict, the devastated aggressor having to accept help from their adversary for help, the tensions that causes between and among both sides.

Its not the big flashy NuTrek-esque style, but the hard work, dedictation and resiliency of the characters that drive storylines and plot, making it a series of substance.
I agree. Add everything Bry said to my initial post and that's my series.
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Old March 11 2014, 05:04 PM   #30
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Re: Should the next Star Trek series have a major war?

I'd prefer it to be primarily about exploration. Whether or not there should be a war involved I'm not so sure about that.

I do believe more and more that any new Trek series will need to be more of a story arc rather than episodic nowadays but there are plenty of other ways to do it rather than war. How that can be done I'll leave to more creative people to come up with as I'm not a very creative person to say the least.

That's my thoughts about it anyway.
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