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View Poll Results: Which Republican Candidate is Most Likely to get the Nomination?
Rand Paul 4 10.81%
Donald Trump 5 13.51%
Jeb Bush 23 62.16%
Dr. Ben Carson 1 2.70%
Chris Christie 0 0%
Ted Cruz 0 0%
Carly Fiorina 0 0%
Lindsey Graham 0 0%
Mike Huckabee 0 0%
Bobby Jindal 0 0%
John Kasich 1 2.70%
George Pataki 0 0%
Rick Perry 0 0%
Marco Rubio 2 5.41%
Rick Santorum 0 0%
Other 1 2.70%
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Old July 1 2015, 09:23 PM   #1
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Republican Candidates for 2016 Race

The race for the Republican nomination is saturated with candidates. While most of them might be set up for a defeat against Hillary, who is most likely to take the nomination?
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Old July 1 2015, 09:54 PM   #2
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I think it's too early to say. All of them have significant ideological flaws, likely fatal, so I'm waiting to see who emerges for the GOP to say "Blurgh, eh, okay, we'll pick that guy and pretend he's the greatest Republican ever."
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Old July 1 2015, 10:07 PM   #3
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Re: Republican Candidates for 2016 Race

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I think it's too early to say. All of them have significant ideological flaws, likely fatal, so I'm waiting to see who emerges for the GOP to say "Blurgh, eh, okay, we'll pick that guy and pretend he's the greatest Republican ever."
I agree that it's an early bet, but I think its an interesting race now because there is a great deal of diversity in the candidates.

Rand Paul - An ideological Libertarian
Donald Trump - A billionaire business man
Jeb Bush - A candidate trying to separate himself from a family "dynasty."
Ben Carson - A brain surgeon with no political background and the only African American in the race
Chris Christie - A "moderate" who carried a heavily Democratic state
Ted Cruz - A "tea party" candidate
Carly Fiorina - The only female in the race
Lindsey Graham - A career politician
Mike Huckabee - A former candidate who has gained popularity as a talk show host
Bobby Jindal - The only Indian American in the race
Marco Rubio - A younger candidate of Hispanic descent
Rick Santorum - A religious right candidate
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Old July 1 2015, 10:13 PM   #4
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Re: Republican Candidates for 2016 Race

fonzob1 wrote: View Post
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I think it's too early to say. All of them have significant ideological flaws, likely fatal, so I'm waiting to see who emerges for the GOP to say "Blurgh, eh, okay, we'll pick that guy and pretend he's the greatest Republican ever."
I agree that it's an early bet, but I think its an interesting race because there is a great deal of diversity in the candidates.

Rand Paul - An ideological Libertarian
Donald Trump - A billionaire and business man
Jeb Bush - A candidate trying to separate himself from a family "dynasty."
Ben Carson - A brain surgeon with no political background and the only African American in the race
Chris Christie - A moderate who carried a heavily Democratic state
Ted Cruz - A tea party candidate
Carly Fiorina - The only female in the race
Lindsey Graham - A career politician
Mike Huckabee - A former candidate who has gained popularity as a talk show host
Bobby Jindal - The only Indian American in the race
Marco Rubio - The only Hispanic American in the race
Rick Santorum - An ultra religious candidate
Being straightforward, all I see are a bunch of inflexible ideologues who have no understanding of how normal people live and work. I don't really care much for their gender, or their skin color.

The only one who has received a modicum of interest from me is John Kasich, who is our governor. While he's most assuredly Republican, he has shown more flexibility and nuance than the rest of the candidates combined.
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Old July 1 2015, 10:17 PM   #5
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Being straightforward, all I see are a bunch of inflexible ideologues who have no understanding of how normal people live and work. I don't really care much for their gender, or their skin color.

The only one who has received a modicum of interest from me is John Kasich, who is our governor. While he's most assuredly Republican, he has shown more flexibility and nuance than the rest of the candidates combined.
"Flexibility" probably won't win him the Republican nomination though. And, while race may not be an important characteristic, some people do consider it at the ballot box for various reasons.
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Old July 1 2015, 10:23 PM   #6
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Bush. He has the money, he has the institutional support, and his campaign is one of "I'm not an evil whacko."
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Being straightforward, all I see are a bunch of inflexible ideologues who have no understanding of how normal people live and work. I don't really care much for their gender, or their skin color.

The only one who has received a modicum of interest from me is John Kasich, who is our governor. While he's most assuredly Republican, he has shown more flexibility and nuance than the rest of the candidates combined.
"Flexibility" probably won't win him the Republican nomination though. And while race may not be an important characteristic, some people do consider it at the ballot box for various reasons.
Flexibility is one of the reasons I don't think Kasich will survive the nomination process. He looks too much like a RINO, even though he most assuredly is conservative with many of his policies.

Statistically speaking, most black people vote for Democrats. So a black Republican has to contend with his or her political affiliation, and the fact that most Republicans are older, white male voters.

This also works against any female GOP candidates as well. Of course, one of the more popular candidates, Marco Rubio, enjoys broad appeal. If I had to pick one, it would probably be Rubio, but he's going to face some serious backlash, when it comes to immigration, once the ball starts rolling towards the finish line.

Which is why at this point I'm not sure who really has the best chance.

ETA: Bush may seem like the best choice, as Dennis mentions above, but he has that last name which might really work against him, but who knows? People forget the past very quickly.
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Old July 1 2015, 10:41 PM   #8
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Re: Republican Candidates for 2016 Race

fonzob1 wrote: View Post
J. Allen wrote: View Post
I think it's too early to say. All of them have significant ideological flaws, likely fatal, so I'm waiting to see who emerges for the GOP to say "Blurgh, eh, okay, we'll pick that guy and pretend he's the greatest Republican ever."
I agree that it's an early bet, but I think its an interesting race now because there is a great deal of diversity in the candidates.

Rand Paul - An ideological Libertarian
Donald Trump - A billionaire business man
Jeb Bush - A candidate trying to separate himself from a family "dynasty."
Ben Carson - A brain surgeon with no political background and the only African American in the race
Chris Christie - A "moderate" who carried a heavily Democratic state
Ted Cruz - A "tea party" candidate
Carly Fiorina - The only female in the race
Lindsey Graham - A career politician
Mike Huckabee - A former candidate who has gained popularity as a talk show host
Bobby Jindal - The only Indian American in the race
Marco Rubio - A younger candidate of Hispanic descent
Rick Santorum - A religious right candidate
Let me fix those for you.

Rand Paul - Lunatic stuck in the late 18th century
Donald Trump - Lunatic stuck on another planet
Jeb Bush - The least terrible choice, but still a Bush
Ben Carson - Must have done brain surgery on himself because craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy
Chris Christie - A corrupt, bullying scumbag
Ted Cruz - Egomaniac
Carly Fiorina - Destroyed HP
Lindsey Graham - Second-rate Ted Cruz
Mike Huckabee - A monstrous excuse for a human being, possibly the most concentrated turd of hatred and malice in the GOP
Bobby Jindal - No significant differentiators other than being a person of color; crazy, but not enough to stand out
Marco Rubio - More laughably ignorant than evil
Rick Santorum - Fundie who runs for President as a full-time job because not even Fox News wants to give him a salary
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Old July 2 2015, 01:32 AM   #10
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I think last man standing is Jeb Bush si.biliary to the way Mitt survived the primaries I. 12 and McCain in 08
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Re: Republican Candidates for 2016 Race

The GOP party has been an establishment-supporting group of increasingly mind-numbing progressives. They'll nominated first and foremost a progressive, with Jeb and the Bush dynasty being first, and Krispy Kreme Christie second -- in other words another progressive loser they and people like Karl Rove will tell us is the only person who can win and that if we don't rally around them, we can't win. Then their mush pick will lose and try to blame us for it.

If for some reason they don't pick the obvious progressives as in previous presidential races, they'll co with someone who can likely be co-opted or already supports left-wing agendas (I see two of those on that list).


The GOP wil not pick what's good for the United States.


And nobody and their grandmother gives a fuck about Linsday Graham. He's the biggest non-event since things like the Leap Second, the XFL and "Daddio".
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Old July 2 2015, 01:43 AM   #12
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Progressives? I don't see anybody on the GOP ticket that could rationally be called progressives.
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There's at least five on that list, unless you are taking "progressive" another way.



Oh, I forgot: fuck you Karl Rove.
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The GOP party has been an establishment-supporting group of increasingly mind-numbing progressives. They'll nominated first and foremost a progressive, with Jeb and the Bush dynasty being first, and Krispy Kreme Christie second -- in other words another progressive loser they and people like Karl Rove will tell us is the only person who can win and that if we don't rally around them, we can't win. Then their mush pick will lose and try to blame us for it.

If for some reason they don't pick the obvious progressives as in previous presidential races, they'll co with someone who can likely be co-opted or already supports left-wing agendas (I see two of those on that list).


The GOP wil not pick what's good for the United States.


And nobody and their grandmother gives a fuck about Linsday Graham. He's the biggest non-event since things like the Leap Second, the XFL and "Daddio".
Being a huge football fan, I enjoyed the XFL (even if it was second rate). It was fun having football to watch in the spring.

Just out of curiosity, who do you want to get the nomination? Or do you not like any of the candidates running?
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There's at least five on that list, unless you are taking "progressive" another way.
Progressives are usually supporters of regulation and labor rights. Who are these five, and how in any sense are they to be considered as progressives?
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