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Old March 11 2014, 05:49 PM   #76
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Re: Star Wars The Clone Wars Season Six

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Why the heck shouldn't he enjoy an intimate encounter? He does have a very long tongue, after all.

I thank the Maker that in my many travels throughout the SW collecting universe over the last decade and a half that I have yet to run into the customizers who created an action figure of Jar Jar with "erotic" features.

Although, given Rule 34 which often applies in the offline world as much as it does online, I wouldn't doubt one exists.
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Old March 12 2014, 12:48 PM   #77
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"The Disappeared Part Two"

Gee, Netflix loading screen for this episode, thank you so much for spoiling the fact that Mother Talzin was in it...

Decent two parter with a minimum of Jar Jar annoyingness. Seeing Mace Windu duel Talzin was particularly awesome. Were we supposed to believe that she died at the end? Or did she fake it, turn invisible, and run away?

Also, I wasn't happy with her saying she wasn't a Force user she had to steal it from others...
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Old March 12 2014, 01:27 PM   #78
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Were we supposed to believe that she died at the end? Or did she fake it, turn invisible, and run away?
I think she ran away. she pulled the same thing in a past episode.
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Old March 12 2014, 02:39 PM   #79
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Also, I wasn't happy with her saying she wasn't a Force user she had to steal it from others...
For what it's worth, the transfer of force powers to non-force users is something that's been used in the EU before. The Valley of the Jedi from the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games springs to mind. If memory serves, the mechanics of that are actually very similar.

Also, wasn't there some kind of force enhancing crystal from the old Alan Dean Foster novel? IIRC the crystal actually originated from one of Lucas's many early Star Wars drafts.
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Old March 12 2014, 04:57 PM   #80
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I just finished the season, so now I can read the thread...

I feel that, for an interrupted season, this worked quite well as a closing season for the series. The first two arcs were interesting conspiracy/thriller stories with dark endings, reinforcing the palpable sense of hopelessness of Episodes II & III as Palpatine manipulates everyone and consolidates his power. The Fives arc in particular worked very well as a paranoid thriller, and its inevitable tragic end was quite poignant. One of the best things about this series is that it took its title The Clone Wars to heart and actually made the series largely about the clones, making them as much central protagonists as any of the Jedi. And this was a great conclusion for the clones' arc. It reinforces their worth as people, and thus makes it more painful to know how Palpatine has used them as mere pawns in a game that we know he will win.

The Padme/Clovis arc wasn't as powerful, but it also played well into the arc of Palpatine's growing control, and it was a nice capper on the Anakin/Padme arc, forcing them to confront the problems of the relationship that's been pretty much simmering throughout the series while also foreshadowing the darker times that lie ahead. Few stories in this series have done a better job showcasing the potential for evil within Anakin.

The Mace/Jar-Jar 2-parter was a nice change of pace, lightening things up a bit, and it provided a satisfactory resolution to the Nightsisters' threat by evidently getting rid of Mother Talzin once and for all. And I liked the comic timing: Jar-Jar gets some action, and then we cut right to Mace saying "There is a great disturbance in the Force." Disturbing indeed...

And the Yoda arc made a really good series finale, as the Jedi finally begin to get a sense of the true manipulations behind the whole war and the foundations are laid for the future of the franchise. The finale of the Tartakovsky series led right into Episode III, but this finale foreshadows not only that, but the original trilogy as well (which makes it appropriate that they got Mark Hamill to play Darth Bane). Also nice to hear so much use of Williams's Yoda theme.

I'm curious about how far along these episodes were when the cancellation came. They've clearly had the opportunity to do some re-editing for Netflix, since at the points where it feels like there should be a fade to black for a commercial, we just get screen wipes or jump cuts. And the last episode's closing shot and alternate end title music was clearly a "made-for-finale" affair.
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Old March 12 2014, 06:24 PM   #81
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I actually enjoyed the Jar Jar/Mace/Talzin arc and it had some fun and deeply satisfying little moments. When I originally heard that some of the final episodes would focus heavily on Jar Jar I experienced some of the trepidation that other fans certainly did, but I had to keep reminding myself: Jar Jar is written better and given more constructive and better things to do in this series than he ever was in the Prequels (well, for the most part, anyways). Going into the arc with the knowledge that Mace and Mother Talzin would also reappear gave me hope that the episodes would entertain even if Jar Jar descended into some form of inanity.

And they did.
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Old March 13 2014, 01:14 AM   #82
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Also, I wasn't happy with her saying she wasn't a Force user she had to steal it from others...
I think it's a good way to explain TCW Nightsister "magic" which is clearly different from the straight-up dark side powers that the original Nightsisters used in the EU. If interpreted as a normal Force-user or darksider Talzin would run the risk of overshadowing Palpatine, who is supposed to be the strongest Force-user in the saga ( or one of the strongest, at least ).

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They've clearly had the opportunity to do some re-editing for Netflix, since at the points where it feels like there should be a fade to black for a commercial, we just get screen wipes or jump cuts.
It probably doesn't have anything specifically to do with Netflix, as all of the previously existing episodes from the first five seasons are available on home video in a format which does not include commercial breaks.
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Old March 13 2014, 12:38 PM   #83
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6X9 The Lost One

Great episode! Great to see Sifo-Dias and Valorum come back. I could have sworn Valorum was killed in a novel, though... Great to see Anakin and Obi dueling Dooku. The lighting and dust particle animation on this episode was gorgeous.

I can't believe the Jedi found out that Dooku created the clone army!!! The fact that they basically decide to do nothing and keep going forward is kinda beautiful in a way... it shows just how powerless and trapped they were by Sidious. And it also makes their suspicion of Palpatine and their readiness to turn on him in ROTS make a little more sense. They already knew everything was rotten about the war.
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Old March 13 2014, 02:19 PM   #84
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It is a little hard to believe, though, that the Jedi didn't suspect Palpatine of being Sidious. They knew the Sith Lord had orchestrated the Clone Wars for his own ends, and here was Palpy accumulating more and more power as a result of the Wars. Cui bono?
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Old March 13 2014, 05:55 PM   #85
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I suppose that's a testament to just how incredibly powerful Sidious/Palpatine was in manipulating the Dark Side to cloud the judgment of the Jedi Council and hide his own direct involvement in the conflict. It hasn't always made much sense that two or three years into the wars a Jedi as immensely strong and gifted as Yoda can't see through the Chancellor's veneer and realize he's been up to no good, but as many have theorized Darth Sidious was just so deftly skilled with the powers of the Dark Side that he could even protect himself and his agenda whilst in the regular company of the highest-ranking and most powerful Jedi in the galaxy.

Any being who could pull the wool over the eyes of Yoda, Mace Windu and Obi-Wan for well over a decade is clearly no novice in the ways of darkness and subterfuge.
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Old March 13 2014, 06:57 PM   #86
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I always felt that Palps had so much dark side with him that he 'threw' it around the room to misdirect.
Still - hard to imagine not once during the 3 years that were The Clone Wars Mace and Yoda may have said... "uh, what about Palpyteen? Anyone tapping his phone?"
As for the visual of Yoda not recognizing Palps in the final episode - I guess we, the audience, needed to know who it really was and have to suspend disbelief on that one.
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Old March 13 2014, 11:21 PM   #87
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But in ROTS the Jedi Council is already suspicious of Palpatine. They warn Anakin about being friends with him because of all the power he was accumulating.
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Old March 14 2014, 12:35 PM   #88
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Aaaah! I totally nerded out on this episode!!!

Yoda and Sidious are my two all time favorite Star Wars characters, and it's been criminal that Yoda only got featured episodes in the pilot and then at the very end of the series. I love Yoda. I love the "compassionate all knowing always kind always right wizard" character, be it Yoda, Gandalf, Dumbledore, etc.

Liam Neeson!!! In the whole damn episode!!! Aaaaah!!! The set up for Yoda learning how survive after death! YODA GOES TO DAGOBAH! WITH ARTOO!!! Artoo has already been to Dagobah!!!! Yoda goes into the Dark Tree!!! And sees a vision of the Jedi FIGHTING CLONES AND SIDIOUS!!!

Despite a complete lack of action this episode had me on total nerd alert

Complaints:

-Yoda enlists Anakin's help to break him out of the Temple.... he walks him to a ship and he flies off. Wow, that was dramatic. Thank god he had Anakin there. Missed opportunity: when they go to leave the medbay, Yoda force bonks the two guards at the door the exact same way he does to the two red guards at the end of ROTS.

-This is a complaint for the series as a whole, but it was particularly egregious here. There is a brutal war going on, raging across the entire galaxy. So why is every single memeber of the Jedi Council sitting around the Temple doing absolutely nothing??? How many clones and innocents are dying while they're on vacation??? As far as I'm concerned there should be about ONE Council member at the Temple at any given time and the rest should be on hologram.

-I thought it was a little weird the way everyone turned on Yoda when he thought he heard Qui-Gon. Particularly after Anakin and Obi-Wan saw Qui Gon on Mortis (Yoda mentions this to Anakin but not to the Council- I don't remember that episode well). And that Ki-Adi is convinced that Yoda is being influenced by the Sith.

Particularly when they say there is no life after death... do you mean to tell the Jedi have never heard of the Sith Ghosts, because they are lousy throughout the EU!
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Particularly when they say there is no life after death... do you mean to tell the Jedi have never heard of the Sith Ghosts, because they are lousy throughout the EU!
The EU isn't canon so I have no problems with this
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-Yoda enlists Anakin's help to break him out of the Temple.... he walks him to a ship and he flies off. Wow, that was dramatic. Thank god he had Anakin there.
Yeah, but he wouldn't have been allowed to leave his room and wander the corridors at all if Anakin hadn't been escorting him. You don't have to get into a big fight in order to play an important role.


-This is a complaint for the series as a whole, but it was particularly egregious here. There is a brutal war going on, raging across the entire galaxy. So why is every single memeber of the Jedi Council sitting around the Temple doing absolutely nothing??? How many clones and innocents are dying while they're on vacation??? As far as I'm concerned there should be about ONE Council member at the Temple at any given time and the rest should be on hologram.
Err, there was a temporary ceasefire being observed for Life Day?

But seriously, in the SW universe it seems to take a matter of minutes to travel practically anywhere in the galaxy through hyperspace. So it wouldn't be that hard to commute from the Temple to any given crisis area.

The thing that bugs me is the holographic technology itself. These guys have figured out artificial intelligence and faster-than-light travel, but they can't figure out how to broadcast in hi-def, or even in full color? I can excuse the scan lines and constant static for an interstellar transmission, with the assumption that there's bound to be interference over great distances. But even when characters call up holograms from their own desks, they still have the same heavy scan lines and ripples and fritzing, which is ridiculous. Why would anyone tolerate that? And how hard could it be to fix it?
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