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Old March 9 2014, 02:38 AM   #16
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Re: If Harlan Ellison had written ALL the TOS episodes...

. . . they all would have come in overlong by half, and unfilmable as written, forcing the Star Trek writing staff to rewrite them. However, Harlan would subsequently receive 79 Writer's Guild awards, and would in later decades publish 79 different books ranting about how his treatment for each individual episode was gutted by the powers that be.
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Old March 10 2014, 06:25 AM   #17
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Re: If Harlan Ellison had written ALL the TOS episodes...

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There would have been far fewer novels and other tie-in merchandise, 'cause he would have wanted $$$$$$ for anything remotely based on what he wrote.
As well he should. Why should corporations be able to endlessly mine the work or others for free?

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I don't think, given what we know of his efforts on COTEOF, that his "vision" for Star Trek would have been the same as the vision of the actual show that we got. It would have been a darker, more cynical series. Better? who knows
Have you READ his first draft? There's not a single cynical thing in the story. It's a tragedy of galactic proportions.
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Re: If Harlan Ellison had written ALL the TOS episodes...

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There would have been far fewer novels and other tie-in merchandise, 'cause he would have wanted $$$$$$ for anything remotely based on what he wrote.
As well he should. Why should corporations be able to endlessly mine the work or others for free?

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I don't think, given what we know of his efforts on COTEOF, that his "vision" for Star Trek would have been the same as the vision of the actual show that we got. It would have been a darker, more cynical series. Better? who knows
Have you READ his first draft? There's not a single cynical thing in the story. It's a tragedy of galactic proportions.
Did I say he shouldn't be paid? If you follow the reasoning, you arrive at the probability of their being fewer tie-ins because of the expense of having to pay him. Some companies would consider it money well-spent, while others would not.

Your second comment was not addressed to me, but I would like to reply anyway. I have read Ellison's version - and while it is indeed a good story, and the character of Trooper makes a more lasting impression than the "disappearing bum," it doesn't quite mesh with the rest of the series. And personally, I think it's okay that the "villain" of the story be a circumstance brought on by physics, not any individual being. For that reason, I found Ellison's version too preachy and "moralizing."
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