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Old March 3 2014, 10:11 PM   #1
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Uniforms from Enterprise to TOS

I was wondering if anyone had an idea, either canon or conjectural, of what the Starfleet uniforms looked like between 2160 and 2254. We saw Pike's Enterprise with the gold, beige, and blue uniforms, but what were they like before then?

I'm working on a new timeline of Trek, and would like to bridge the gap between Enterprise and TOS, both ship-wise, technology-wise, and species-wise. This will involve altering some of Enterprise to remove continuity errors (Ferengi, for one).
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Old March 4 2014, 03:04 AM   #2
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Re: Uniforms from Enterprise to TOS

They looked like this in 2233

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Old March 4 2014, 03:12 AM   #3
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Re: Uniforms from Enterprise to TOS

THIS is the Starfleet uniform of the 2160's, according to the Enterprise: Rise of the Federation novel series.
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Old March 4 2014, 03:51 AM   #4
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Re: Uniforms from Enterprise to TOS

We see slightly updated ENT Starfleet uniforms in TATV in 2161. From there, we don't see a canon uniform until the Kelvin's crew in 2233. As for non-canon sources, all I know is the link King Daniel posted from the novelverse.
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Old March 4 2014, 07:02 PM   #5
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Almost forget, here is FASA's old version of an early Federation uniform, from their The Romulan War booklet:
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Old March 4 2014, 09:11 PM   #6
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^I love everything about that uniform except for the Imperial/Nazi pants.
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Old March 4 2014, 09:23 PM   #7
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I love that the guy has an impossibly long neck. Or, he's been wearing those neck ring things that some African women wear that push the ribcage down.
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Old March 4 2014, 09:23 PM   #8
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I am in the minority but I am uncertain the Kelvin uniforms in the JJverse are the same as in the Prime one
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Old March 4 2014, 09:31 PM   #9
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I like Christopher's uniform quite a bit. His way of squaring the circle of the different service patches relative to canon is approaching the best that can be done, most likely. All that's missing are the other patches, namely the IAMD Defiant patch, the starbase flower, and the BoT/"Arena" outpost seashell; maybe they came later. The only quibble I have about his uniform is that it seems on the dressy side, but certainly that's not a show-stopper (just look at the TWOK uniforms).
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Old March 4 2014, 09:37 PM   #10
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I am in the minority but I am uncertain the Kelvin uniforms in the JJverse are the same as in the Prime one
Why wouldn't they be? The Kelvin and her crew existed before Nero's incursion, hence in the Prime Universe.
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Old March 5 2014, 05:38 AM   #11
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I am in the minority but I am uncertain the Kelvin uniforms in the JJverse are the same as in the Prime one
What's there to be uncertain about?
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Old March 5 2014, 05:59 AM   #12
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I am in the minority but I am uncertain the Kelvin uniforms in the JJverse are the same as in the Prime one
I'd have to agree.

But I believe that the so-called prime universe we saw in NuTrek is the genuine Prime Universe that proper Trek is set in. But that's my view.
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Old March 5 2014, 06:38 AM   #13
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I love that the 2233 Kelvin uniforms retroactively make the "All Good Things"/"Endgame" et al future TNG uniforms into a kind of throwback design - Starfleet going back to their classic look, with some 'updates' (TNG colour scheme, baggy design, slightly different insignia). The EMH in "Endgame" looks like he's doing a bad Captain Robau cosplay!
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Old March 5 2014, 07:10 PM   #14
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The Kelvin was only seen in the JJverse and there could be changes in the past due how the temporal war players may have changed(as an example).
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Old March 5 2014, 07:57 PM   #15
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The Kelvin was only seen in the JJverse and there could be changes in the past due how the temporal war players may have changed(as an example).
But why would you even think this to begin with? Would you be thinking this if, say, the Kelvin bridge looked just like the TOS Enterprise bridge from "The Cage," and the uniforms looked like "The Cage" uniforms?

The "JJverse" started when Nero came back through time and changed things. Before he did that, the universe was the same as the prime TOS universe. That's what Kurtzman and Orci stated, and that's good enough for me. YMMV.
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