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Old April 1 2014, 10:32 AM   #31
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Re: History of Starfleet/Starfleet register project

It should be considered, though, that Starfleet is constantly at war. If not with specific cultures, then against Mother Nature herself. Would there ever be an opportunity for a lull in shipbuilding?

Dixonesque (in the good sense) works can build on a roller-coaster pseudohistory easily enough: by taking into account all the source material out there, one ends up with such disparate bits that there are necessarily major changes in Starfleet makeup and major shifts in Federation politics and the fortunes of war and peace for basically every decade between now and the post-TNG years. It might be better to ignore such inconsistencies rather than revel in them, though, as writing your own pseudohistory can be at least as rewarding. And that in turn will easily fit inside the great lacunae of canonical Trek, no matter how topsy-turvy a story you create.

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Old April 1 2014, 11:55 AM   #32
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Re: History of Starfleet/Starfleet register project

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It should be considered, though, that Starfleet is constantly at war. If not with specific cultures, then against Mother Nature herself. Would there ever be an opportunity for a lull in shipbuilding?

Dixonesque (in the good sense) works can build on a roller-coaster pseudohistory easily enough: by taking into account all the source material out there, one ends up with such disparate bits that there are necessarily major changes in Starfleet makeup and major shifts in Federation politics and the fortunes of war and peace for basically every decade between now and the post-TNG years. It might be better to ignore such inconsistencies rather than revel in them, though, as writing your own pseudohistory can be at least as rewarding. And that in turn will easily fit inside the great lacunae of canonical Trek, no matter how topsy-turvy a story you create.

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Of course there would be a lull in shipbuilding at times, due to the rise and fall of demand during times of armament build up, the conversion of war-time to peace time and so on.

That's one of the major qualms I have against fandom, its all about creating the awesome ship, and yet ignoring the pseudohistory. And of course, the UFP despite being touted as an all-explorer force are in a lot of major wars in fandom.

Personally, I would write the history and the rest would fall into place. Someone else hit it on the nail when Dixonesque was in reference to the author's temperament rather than the work itself.
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Old April 1 2014, 12:41 PM   #33
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I just can't see how Starfleet could disarm after a war. If anything, the demand for ships is greater in peacetime: basically every episode of every series bar VOY is based on the lack of starships, forcing our heroes to act on barely sufficient or insufficient resources.

If anything, planners might breathe a sigh of relief when a war is declared, as that frees them from the contractual obligation to survey, explore, negotiate, settle and so forth, cutting down starship requirements by 70%.

Navies today do basically nothing but fight, which makes them diametrically opposite to Starfleet which is up to its neck in non-fighting duties, so much in fact that it barely finds time for wargames. Perhaps once in a century, it seems...

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Old April 1 2014, 05:59 PM   #34
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A war time economy and a peace time economy are two very different models in terms of taxes, uses of materials, use of manpower, and how the nation is being directed.

A continous build up will only create shortages in unreplicateable materials such as warp cores and trained personnel.

Modern navies, while there first mission is the defense of their respective nations, carry out a lot of the same missions that we Starfleet do such as patrol, colonial re-supply, ocean exploration, and render humanitarian aid.
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Old April 1 2014, 06:10 PM   #35
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I cannot comment on this in greater depth without giving things away, but suffice it to say that Prowl has the diametrically opposite (&, I feel, incorrect) stance from that which will be shown
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