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View Poll Results: Who was the best Vulcan guest character on Enterprise?
Tos (Thomas Kopache) in "Broken Bow" 0 0%
Captain Vanik (William Utay) in "Breaking the Ice" 2 5.88%
Captain Sopen (Gregory Itzin) in "Shadows of P'Jem" 0 0%
Ambassador V'Lar (Fionnula Flanagan) in "Fallen Hero" 11 32.35%
Mestral (J. Paul Boehmer) in "Carbon Creek" 13 38.24%
Dr. Oratt (Michael Ensign) in "Stigma" 0 0%
Dr. Yuris (Jeffrey Hayenga) in "Stigma" 0 0%
Subcommander Muroc (John Balma) in "Cease Fire" 0 0%
T'Les (Joanna Cassidy) in "Home" and "Awakening" 3 8.82%
Koss (Michael Reilly Burke) in "Home", "The Forge", and "Kir'Shara" 1 2.94%
Syrran (Michael Nouri) in "The Forge" 3 8.82%
V'Las (Robert Foxworth) "The Forge", "Awakening", and "Kir'Shara" 1 2.94%
Kuvak (John Rubinstein) in "Awakening" and "Kir'Shara" 0 0%
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Old March 10 2014, 12:52 AM   #31
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I just assumed that in ENT, young T'Pau was speaking Vulcan, but rendered into English with the universal translator. Old T'Pau in TOS was probably trying to speak English natively, and thus the accent.
HA!!! ... I LOVE this excuse! Awesome.
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Old March 10 2014, 06:39 PM   #32
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I don't want to imply that all Vulcans on the show were excessively emotional. Gary Graham, Thomas Kopache, Gregory Itzin, and Kara Zediker were all good at playing traditional Vulcans. Jolene Blalock was good at it too, for the most part, though they were clearly interested in making her more emotional for much of the series.

It's interesting that you bring up the shows guest actors being subjected to heavy make-up, since most of them had played such roles on previous Trek series.
Oh, I disagree. On ENT, the only Vulcan that was played with any emotional restraint was Koss. This was counterpointed by Koss' illogical refusal to cut T'Pol loose, despite her every rejection. It's like the ENT writers wanted to deconstruct Vulcans, didn't like Vulcans and made every effort to reinvent Vulcans in this new series. Whilst I love Kara's performance, her T'Pau is not emotional in the sort of TV housewife way. But she definitely emotes too much, particularly when under pressure. When encountering Surak's katra, again, she was emotional with her sustained surprise, over what was logical and obvious to all but the roaming sehlat. Nevertheless, Vulcan is a cool setting, which no-doubt is why ENT liked going there. And it was nice to see Zora from Blade Runner in something - after all who else could be believable as T'Pol's mom, right?
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Old March 10 2014, 09:44 PM   #33
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Your assessment that ENTERPRISE made Vulcans too emotional is one which I happen to share. My feeling is that to get some of the good talent that they got to go through the hassle of wearing this nappy wig, of having rubber glued to their ears and all this, they were going to have be cut some slack. As in allowing these people to emote. It goes without saying that actors rely heavily on their facial expressions, body language and emotional range to realize live-action characters, almost all of the time. In a way I can understand, but ... I would rather have bad actors acting all unemotional and stoic as Vulcans, than have big names in the makeup playing as themselves. But that's just me ...
So you believe that the Vulcan characters showed too much emotion because the directors in the episodes in which they appeared were unable to control and direct their actors?

As has been pointed out numerous times, there were reasons the Vulcan characters showed too much emotion. Did you miss the scenes with "head" Surak and Archer, the importance of finding the Kir'shara, Syrran's talk with T'Pol and Archer in the cave, T'Les, T'Pau and the other separatists, the unsavory clandestine "relationship" of certain Vulcan High Council members with a certain hostile race? Did all this get by you? The showing of emotion by the 22nd century Vulcans was not an accident, nor was it a result of rogue actors being allowed to define their characters on screen.

I suggest carefully re-watching the first half of season 4.
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I voted Mestral. I just loved him.
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