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Old February 22 2014, 08:11 PM   #76
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Re: "Spectre of the Gun" set "West of Mars"?

I like the Empath's emphasis on someone learning self-sacrifice; and Kirk's seeming to get through to the aliens at the end, though it is left a bit ambiguous.
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Old February 22 2014, 10:18 PM   #77
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"The Empath" still isn't all that hot and much of it feels like it belongs in an Outer Limits episode not Trek.
There's a lot of parallels to The Cage though (if flipped around a bit). The Vians were reminiscent of the Talosians. There was a caged experiment with emotional manipulation, though this time focused on the captive subject not the Captain. In The Cage Pike's strong emotions allows him to break his captivity while in The Empath it's through keeping emotions in check. It's not one-to-one but there's similarities.
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Old February 23 2014, 06:09 AM   #78
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"The Empath" still isn't all that hot and much of it feels like it belongs in an Outer Limits episode not Trek.
There's a lot of parallels to The Cage though (if flipped around a bit). The Vians were reminiscent of the Talosians. There was a caged experiment with emotional manipulation, though this time focused on the captive subject not the Captain. In The Cage Pike's strong emotions allows him to break his captivity while in The Empath it's through keeping emotions in check. It's not one-to-one but there's similarities.
Agreed. As a kid I actually thought The Empath was some kind of continuation of the The Cage storyline, and the whole dark formless minimalism thing actually kind of freaked me out at the time. The Vians look a heck of a lot like the Talosians, and they even use an illusion when they trick Kirk, Spock, and Gem into seeing Scotty and a rescue party.
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I like the Empath's emphasis on someone learning self-sacrifice; and Kirk's seeming to get through to the aliens at the end, though it is left a bit ambiguous.
Yes, that's the more Trek-like part of it for sure. To me the beginning is very Outer Limits-ish and then starts to take on a more Trek tone.
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